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India in talks on BlackBerry e-mail access-source
Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:30pm EDT

(Repeats story issued late on Tuesday)

(Recasts, adds background)

By Bappa Majumdar

NEW DELHI, Sept 21 (Reuters) – India is in talks with Research In
Motion Ltd (RIM.TO) to gain access to BlackBerry corporate e-mails
after securing access to instant messages sent via the devices, a
senior government source said on Tuesday.

India, which along with several other countries has expressed concerns
that BlackBerry services could be used to stir political or social
instability, had threatened RIM with a ban if it were denied access to
data.

A spokeswoman for RIM, which has never commented on whether the Indian
government has access to BlackBerry services, was not immediately
available for comment.

The Indian interior ministry said on Aug. 30 that the Canadian firm
had offered several ways to allow authorities to monitor BlackBerry
communications. The government said it would check their feasibility
over the next 60 days. [ID:nSGE67T0I0]

Saudi Arabia, fretful over services such as online pornography, has
reached a deal with RIM on access to the BlackBerry Messenger instant
messaging service, a consumer product that operates outside of the
secure corporate domain, according to government sources.
[ID:nN10122755]

Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates have raised similar concerns, with
the UAE setting an Oct. 11 deadline for RIM.

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India had threatened to shut off RIM’s encrypted e-mail and instant
messaging services unless it gained access to them, in a campaign
driven by fears that unmonitored e-mail and messaging puts the
country’s security at risk. [ID:nSGE6800HD]

“They have started giving us access to messenger service from Sept.
1,” the government source said on Tuesday. “Discussions are under way
so that we get access to the other service, which is corporate e-mail,
so that we can read it in readable format.”

A source had earlier told Reuters the Indian government had been
granted access to data effective Sept. 1, but the nature of the access
was unclear.

Robert Crow, a vice president at the Canadian maker of the popular
BlackBerry phones, met interior secretary Gopal Pillai and other
senior officials on Tuesday, the government source said. Crow refused
to comment on the nature of discussions after the meeting.

India’s efforts to monitor BlackBerry traffic could have an impact on
the shape of India’s mobile phone market, the world’s fastest-growing,
and possibly hand gains to Apple Inc (AAPL.O) and Nokia Oyj
(NOK1V.HE), BlackBerry’s two biggest smartphone rivals in India.

Data sent from non-RIM devices is easier to intercept and only
requires the approval of the carrier, whereas RIM says carriers have
no access to its encrypted data.

India also wants RIM and other Internet communications providers such
as Google Inc (GOOG.O) and Skype to put up local servers and allow
full monitoring of traffic.

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Holmes)

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Paedophile priest Vince Ryan out of jail

By Joanne McCarthy
The Newcastle Herald
Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Hunter paedophile priest Vince Ryan left jail for the first time in
more than 14 years yesterday -- a jacket hood over his head, an arm
across his face, and a satellite device strapped to his body
monitoring his every move.

Ryan, 72, said nothing as a NSW Corrective Services car slowed to
clear the Long Bay Jail gates at noon, and drove off to take the
former Maitland-Newcastle Catholic Diocese priest to a halfway house
for newly released long-term jail inmates.

The waiting media did not get to ask Ryan questions about how he felt
to be released after serving his sentence, or if he had anything to
say to his 35 known victims and their families.

"That seems to be it then," a Corrective Services media spokesman
said as the car turned onto Anzac Parade outside the jail.

In an earlier interview Maitland-Newcastle Bishop Michael Malone, who
visited Ryan in jail, said the former priest had frequently expressed
remorse for his crimes against boys aged six to 14 between 1972 and
1991.

Ryan will not be returning to the Hunter under the terms of a
memorandum of understanding with the Bishop, and will never practise
as a priest again after having his faculties removed.

The Corrective Services spokesman said Ryan was one of 30 convicted
sex offenders tracked 24 hours a day via a satellite device. He is on
parole for the next four years.

A woman whose son committed suicide before police could confirm he
was one of Ryan's victims said she was "pretty numb" yesterday at
the former priest's release.

"You can't change what's happened but I don't think the Catholic
Church will ever recover from what they've done to children," she
said.

Maitland-Newcastle Diocese paid more than $6 million to some of
Ryan's victims after proof that at least one member of clergy, the
late Monsignor Patrick Cotter, knew of his offending and "decided to
say nothing".

Ryan was sent to Melbourne in 1975 for "treatment" but he wrote a
different story for the Manning Valley parish newsletter on his
appointment in 1995, one year before he was charged.

The Melbourne year was to "take a sabbatical", mix with clergy and
lay people and "do things you've never done before, like going to
continental movie houses to expand your mind", he said.

"I took on racing in a big way. It was the first time I'd ever gone
to a racecourse. It was incredible. It was a great year."

Ryan returned to Maitland-Newcastle Diocese in 1976. He was charged
with sexually assaulting at least 25 more children after that date.

More at:
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Indian Sports Showcase Turns Into Fiasco

By ROBERT MACKEY
September 23, 2010, 11:35 am
Indian Sports Showcase Turns Into Fiasco
By ROBERT MACKEY

BBC

A photograph provided to the BBC this week by someone who inspected
accommodations for Commonwealth Games athletes in Delhi this week
showed animal paw prints on a bed.

Updated | 12:57 p.m. An Indian official apologized on Thursday for
what he called “a collective failure” by the organizers of the
Commonwealth Games, a sporting event due to start in 10 days in Delhi
that has been beset by problems.

Teams from several nations have delayed their trips to India after
advance delegations reported unsanitary conditions in the athletes’
village, and the collapse of a pedestrian bridge and part of the
ceiling at one venue raised concerns about safety.

Speaking to India’s NDTV on Thursday, next to a headline that read,
“Collapsing Games, the Joke’s on India,” the treasurer of the
organizing committee for the Delhi games, A.K. Mattoo, said, “I feel
sad, we are sorry for whatever has happened, directly or indirectly by
us or by one of the stakeholders.”

After listing five other government agencies that have been also
involved in the preparations for the games, he added: “I genuinely
feel sorry for whatever has happened and would like to apologize, not
only on our part — the part of the organizing committee — but
everybody else connected…. This is a collective failure.”

As India’s prime minister, Manmohan Singh, got involved in the effort
to make sure the games will go ahead, officials from Australia, Wales
and Scotland told reporters that they expect to send their athletes
after all.

This year’s edition of the games, which are held every four years for
athletes from countries that used to be part of the British Empire,
was supposed to have been a showcase for modern India, but concerns
about accommodations being “unfit for human habitation” were raised
this week after advance teams were allowed inside apartments
constructed for the athletes.

Reporters have been kept at a distance from the apartments but
photographs shot this week and provided to the BBC show exposed
electrical wiring running through pools of stagnant water, collapsed
walkways, dirty bathrooms and animal paw prints on beds.

Reporting from Delhi for the BBC, Sanjoy Majumder wrote this week that
what is outside the apartments might be more worrying than what is
inside:

The village itself has been built on the banks of the Yamuna River.
Just outside it are pools of green, stagnant water left over from
flooding after Delhi’s worst monsoon in three decades. It’s a breeding
ground for mosquitoes and has raised fears of disease — there have
been nearly 100 cases of dengue fever over the past month.

In an interview with Britain’s Channel 4 News on Wednesday, Novy
Kapadia, an Indian sports journalist, said that the problems stemmed
from “trying to compete with China, saying that we’ll do a
Commonwealth Games that will be better than the Olympics in China —
which in its own way was quite absurd; it’s a different political
system over there [and] they started much earlier.”

He added that “multiple authorities” in Delhi, “got very greedy and
ambitious,” in “competing with China, trying to redo the whole of
Delhi,” rather than simply concentrating on new sports stadiums and
roads around them. “There was no point in trying to restore Connaught
Place and getting overambitious and then not finishing anything. That
has become the problem for the Commonwealth Games: you tried to climb
a mountain; you couldn’t even climb the hill.”

Mr. Mattoo’s apologetic comments on behalf of the organizers marked a
sharp departure from remarks made two days earlier by Lalit Bhanot,
the committee’s general secretary, who told reporters on Thuesday,
“everyone has a different standard of cleanliness. The rooms of the
games village are clean according to you and me, but they have some
other standard of cleanliness.”

That remark led one NDTV reporter, Sonali Chander, to comment on
Twitter that it was “shocking how senior officials make idiotic
comments.”

Arguments among officials from other nations and the Indian organizers
have spilled into the open this week, but problems have been obvious
for some time. Earlier this month, one Indian sports star, Saina
Nehwal, was forced to apologize for telling reporters that “looking at
the stadiums and looking at the progress, I don’t really think we are
capable of holding such big tournaments, because I’ve seen many games,
like the Commonwealth Games in Melbourne and the Olympic Games in
China — compared to that it’s not up to the mark.”

26 Readers’ Comments

1.AER
Cambridge, England
September 23rd, 2010 11:12 am

India wants to be world player? Well welcome to the world, we’re
watching and we’re not gullible.
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2.archibald74
Brighton
September 23rd, 2010 11:13 am

What a missed opportunity for India as a future (current?) economic
power house.
China knew the importance of the Olympics and set about giving the
impression – not just to viewers but also businesses and investors –
that it was a country that could get things done, and do them well.
India, no doubt with the same intentions at the back of its mind,
started far too late and this combined with some last minute bad
weather means disaster potentially looms. Certainly, even if venues
are finished many won’t have the basic tests done over a period of
months that you would expect. The effect of this will be pretty much
the exact opposite as that the Olympics had for China.
Sadly, with the spotlight of the world now upon them, issues such as
child labor are now also emerging, it was reported on the BBC earlier
that the inhabitants of New Delhi have known child labor was being
used since the building began.
The Indian government must rue the day they decided to bid for the
games.
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3.CheshireCat
Chicago
September 23rd, 2010 11:13 am

Anyone who has been to India can see that it is simply not on the same
level as China. In fact, the crumbling infrastructure just seems to
get worse. Part of the problem is the exploding population that the
authorities just don’t seem to think is a problem. With 800 million
people living under the poverty level, how can the country advance?
China has been continuously lambasted for its one child policy, but
the effects of unchecked population growth is plain to see.

When I keet reading articles by pundits that India is going to surpass
China because of it’s “vibrant democracy” or some other feel-good
reason, I just keep shaking my head in disbelief.
Recommended by 24 Readers

4.sha
NYC
September 23rd, 2010 11:13 am

A corrupt political system is an embarassement to the hard working,
highly intelligent people of Delhi and India.
I hope it leads to an honest evaluation of corruption and graft as a
true impedient to National success. Democracy is messy — but this it
shouldn’t be slovenly.
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5.intcamd
NJ
September 23rd, 2010 11:19 am

What a shame!
We held the Asian games in 198[2] and that was a better show; looks
like we regressed

The country and the government needs to take care of its people,
provide for the minimum basics of life, improve infrastructure all
over the country, and make sure its citizens are protected before
embarking on misadventures like this. However, no one will be held
accountable, partcicularly those who are truly culpable. They will
likely find some small fry scapegoats w/o political cover.
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6.ACW
New Jersey
September 23rd, 2010 12:05 pm

There are animal paw prints on my bed. So what? (Admittedly, they were
made by my cat, whom I know, rather than by an unknown intruder; but
it seems a bit squeamish of them nonetheless.)
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7.lakshmi97
Maharashtra
September 23rd, 2010 12:05 pm

The Common Wealth games village showcases what the rest of India is to
day, in shambles, and yes unfit for human habitation, North South East
and West, thanks to our inept Government and the unbelievable
corruption thriving at every level, which ensures that India will
remain forever a slum that is aspiring to be a super power.
In a way it is good that this happened. By being globally exposed days
before this international event, at least now the power hungry
dictators in Delhi, who buy the votes from the gullible , poor,
illiterate masses at election time, show the good grace to quit their
dirty games, which perhaps might get them the gold for down right
fraud!
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8.The Noted Bloggist
Southern CA
September 23rd, 2010 12:05 pm

I hope India manages to fix all the problems and have a successful
tournament. Good luck!
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9.Tamza
California
September 23rd, 2010 12:05 pm

India is/ has been a false facade. IITs are talked of as the MIT of
east. I have seen MIT, and IIT is no MIT. You take the cream of the
crop, and compare with the average, and you will appear great up to a
point. You claim to be the world’s largest democracy, yet you have
oppressive rule in one of the states, at the very foundadtion. Not a
true democracy … when things go against what you want. You kill
innocent protestors. The failure of the games, and I dont see HOW they
can go on is just one more indicator of a rotten to the core corrupt
facade. I have been saying for at least 7 years, and say it again,
this outsourcing of backoffice work to India is a big mistake: there
is no quality control, no provacy control. Only cost control was the
driving force, and that is no longer true.
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10.Joe A
New York, NY
September 23rd, 2010 12:07 pm

I don’t think there’s an Indian in the world right now who isn’t
cowering with shame at the mention of CWG. Our Government has failed
us, and we (and the Indian media) have failed our country by not being
more proactive back when it could have produced some real results.
This should, in the least, inject some humility into us, and put us in
our place — that being of a very distant second to China in Asia, in
terms of infrastructure and planning (the backbones of a successful
industrialised nation), with plenty more to learn and do before we can
claim the recognition we vie for.

This was never a project to be entrusted upon the giant, bureaucratic,
corruption-ridden machine that is the Indian government. Was there any
pre-construction planning at all? Red flags would have popped up long
time ago. tsk tsk. It should have been outsourced to private firms or
technocrats like E Sreedharan with a proven record.

I hope this at least makes us get out of our “chalta hai” attitude and
tidy up our act. I can go on and on about work culture, respect,
accountability, civic sense and the rest, but I’m beginning to sound
like a broken record. The damage is done, I hope there’s enough
“passable” work done for the games to go ahead as planned without any
more embarrassments.
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11.duriseti
California
September 23rd, 2010 12:08 pm

I’m embarrassed to be an Indian Ex-pat.

CheshireCat hit the nail on the head. The crumbling infrastructure and
poor quality of construction, even current, is self-evident. In fact,
I would argue that along with urban congestion, it is the most
noticable feature of a swing through any Indian city.

Corruption is rampant.

Population growth since independence — tripled. Hindu-Muslim
animosities and suspicion contributed to inaction on this) front. This
same population growth is a threat to global prosperity — not just
India’s.

Illiteracy, especially in the Northern states, is endemic.

Absolutely shameful. The worst part of it is that the average mind-
numbingly stupid and corrupt Indian bureaucrat will barely feel a
twinge of shame for their obvious failures.
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12.coolobserver
Californina
September 23rd, 2010 12:08 pm

Corruption is the SOLE problem behind it. As an NRI I can easily
imagine that every construction company/supplier involved saw this as
a chance to make millions supplying lowest quality materials/work at
highest cost. Another factor is absolute lack of infrastructure at
every level but that is also a result of decades of corruption and
failed socio-economic policies meant more for grand-standing to the
voting public than actually improving the country. You can’t bribe
nature!! No quality, bridges will collapse…unless the educated class
wakes up in India from its selfish indifference, and unless the
political system is cleaned inside out thoroughly (I am told more than
80% of India’s members of parliment have at least one criminal case
against them including for murders, and convictions, jail time!) there
is absolutely no hope for India to amount to anything in the socio-
economic-political global forum. The only thing left to impress the
world with is the original ancient Indian culture which also they are
very busy killing in the name of vote-politics catering to so-called
minority religions.
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13.Rudolph
New York, NY
September 23rd, 2010 12:08 pm

The Yamuna River has not been in existence since Delhi expanded 10
fold and history was no more (50 years ago). Instead the sudden
increase in population, needing the water badly, have changed that
river into a 1000 mile long swamp totally destroying the beauty of the
Taj Mahal and creating serious health problems of millions of people.
Certainly the Common Wealth Nations, all of whom obviously have
visited India on many occasions, must have known that. Also all of
them must have gotten stuck in heavy traffic in Delhi or Bombay
itself, not because of the many cars but because of different rules of
the traffic police (their sense of judgement of ”right-of-way” is
based on the importance and seniority of the driver rather than the
yellow-or-red of the traffic lights thus creating hour long delays,
and collective anger of the drivers). India is India, the most
fascinating country on earth, but a place you don’t visit for pleasure
and relaxation as per western standards but for experience and memory.
The same unexpected frustrations are now obvious in the lack of
readiness of the Common Wealth Games. But don’t just blame it on the
Indians. The entire Common Wealth is equally guilty because they all
know India or are just plain naive.
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14.Jughead
SXM
September 23rd, 2010 12:09 pm

It’s not only New Delhi, the entire country is a slum. Corruption is
endemic.
Nobody cares. Despite all this blatant corruption, nobody has been
charged everybody is just trying to sweep the stinking filth of
corruption under the rug.
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15.elayne
DC
September 23rd, 2010 12:09 pm

China had total sovereignty over all the planning that went into the
Olympics. They can just kick someone out of their home, doesn’t have
to worry about environmental problems or what the press will say or if
they will lose an election because they were to heavy handed to their
citizens. India is not perfect and has a long way to go but the people
are free to petition their government and vote out those they don’t
like. Democracy is hard work but worth it. Democratic nations often
take one step back for every two steps forward but in the long run it
is more sustainable. I wonder how many people India detained or sent
home for complaining about the situation.
How do you think China handled people that went against the party line
at the Olympics?
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16.Jeff
L.A.
September 23rd, 2010 12:10 pm

The biggest hurdle for India is the Indian mind set. India took some
of the worst attributes of Imperial Britain and colonialism and fused
them onto their caste society. China was able to make a clean break
with it’s decaying past by basically executing or exiling all the so
called class enemies or retros. India on the other hand has layers and
layers of decaying culture and behavior that is almost immune to
change.
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17.Tim
Texas
September 23rd, 2010 12:13 pm

Four decades of socialism has left a legacy of corruption and
incompetence. Hopefully, events like this will force India to confront
the culture of multiple interfering agencies and a lack of
responsibility all round.

#3 Cheshire Cat: India has far less than 800 million poor; you loose
credibility when your statistics are so totally wrong.
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Robert Mackey
Reporter, New York Times
September 23rd, 2010 12:13 pm

India’s population is estimated at far more than 800,000 – more 1.1
billion, according to the World Bank.18.PRASHANT
BOSTON
September 23rd, 2010 12:13 pm

IM NOT SURPRISED. THIS IS INDIA, CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST WITH THE
POLITICIANS EITHER APOLOGIZING OR MAKING A REMARK OF THE BRIDGE THAT
COLLAPSED THAT IT WAS NOT MEANT FOR ATHLETES OR STAFF…..BUT “FOR THE
COMMON MAN”……
WELCOME TO INDIA, CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST
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19.Practical Dude
New York, NY
September 23rd, 2010 12:14 pm

India finally had to confront the high standards prevalent among the
best around the world. And we’re seeing, in examples such as this
shameful failure, that India is ripping away the blindfold they’ve
been wearing since the time they kicked out the British in 1947. It’s
one thing to say “we’re great, we have a long and rich history, etc”,
but it’s quite another to actually prove yourself where the rubber
meets the road. This fiasco of the Commonwealth Games shows what is
abundantly clear to most people visiting India or doing business there
– large scale incompetence, dull headed ways of thinking, corruption,
an unproductive laissez-faire attitude when asked to accomplish tasks.
India better shape up, or else the world, meaning the real world that
expects real results, will continue to kick its behind.
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20.My 2 Cents
Blacksburg, Va.
September 23rd, 2010 12:14 pm

The people of India can be bright and industrious. However, its
government and bureaucracy are large, inept and, more importantly,
very corrupt. There are well meaning individuals in public service who
have the spirit and intent to serve, but these are lost souls in a
culture that teaches that getting ahead by making do and cutting
corners is necessary to flourish. Eventually, the Indian system holds
its people and nation back, indeed in many ways it holds the nation
backward.

The Commonwealth Games fiasco is a shame and a potential blot.
However, it could also be a learning experience if those involved are
ethically reflective. They should pause and examine issues related to
their lackadaisical performance, the use of child labor, the
unsanitary habitation with which they welcome their visitors, and
their reluctance to attend to true service.

If some in India consider that a comparison with China is odious, then
consider that South Africa was on the world stage only recently.
Nations are able to organize and project themselves effectively no
matter how large or small they are, and no matter what the extent of
their many problems is.

India should also be able to also do so. It can redeem itself just as
its democratic traditions help it do so every few years.
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21.Mrinal Jhangiani
Edgemont, NY
September 23rd, 2010 12:15 pm

I am not surprised at all. The CW games will get cancelled and no one
will be held accountable. Indians will shout about it a bit and in a
couple of months all will be forgotten.

India, its politicians, elite businessmen and all urban Indians only
know how to point fingers, and pass the buck and the blame.They are
best at playing the blame game rather then making an effort to change
their neighborhood, their schools, their communities and the country
at large. But, charity starts at home.

Let me give you an example of what I mean – Gurgaon is home to some of
the largest multinational corporations headquarters in the region,
Google, Microsoft, Amex, Oracle, HP, just to name a few – yet outside
their swanky offices in Cyber City – their main access roads are
infested with mosquito puddles, Gigantic potholes, bullock carts,
buffaloes, goats, people spitting, urinating – you name it. It is a
nightmare. Why cant these companies spend just a few hundred thousand
dollars to hire contractors and get it fixed. I know the pat answer –
Its not their problem, its the builders (DLF) responsibility.

Another eg. Mumbai – Malabar hill has some of the most expensive
apartments in the world (Average apartment costs a million dollars –
the real expensive ones can go upwards of 15 million) Yet outside
these very same posh buildings you will find rubble, smelly garbage
and slums, the garbage having come from the building itself. The
residents say it is not their responsibility its the Municipal
corporations responsibility, when any one of those residents could
spend a few thousand dollars and have garbage disposed off properly
for the year.

India doesn’t need anything except a sound spanking and some
discipline – and Indians need to take a hard look in the mirror and
see the ugly reflection.

I am sorry for this pent up tirade – I left India 26 years ago, but I
go back for work several times a year. I am so saddened at what has
become of the country I still want to call home.

Why do Indians keep blaming their politicians. If the average educated
Indian said no more, and then got off their butts and collectively got
involved in managing and running the country, we wouldnt have this
situation where the Games will have to be cancelled.

All Indians are to blame for this failure and embarassment – if you
know there is a problm and look the other way – then sadly but truly
your apathy is as much the problem as the politicians corruption.
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22.manbearpig
Waukesha, WI
September 23rd, 2010 12:15 pm

They should just cancel the whole thing. Melbourne has already offered
to host the games if Delhi pulls out.
It would just be humiliation if it gets cancelled. If they go ahead
and, say, a stadium roof or a sportsperson accommodation highrise
collapses during the next rain, that wound would be very hard to heal.
In hindsight, Chennai, Mumbai, Bangalore or Hyderabad should have bid
for the games. Delhi is the corruption capital of a very corrupt
India.
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23.Kailash
Herndon, Va
September 23rd, 2010 12:15 pm

Main Problem is Indian Olympic Committee which is responsible for the
games . Its head Suresh Kalmadi and his team have looted the money of
Govt. of India by giving contracts to the companies which doesnt have
any experience . Govt. of India has failed to monitor the organising
committee and it ended up in this state . This shows how corruption
has spoiled everything in my country .
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24.Marc Bissou
Folsom, CA
September 23rd, 2010 12:15 pm

Even if these sporting event is not properly staged, I don’t think it
will impact the economic growth or the foreign investment in India.
The growing market of Middle class Indian is also too large to be
ignored by corporations around the world. India may not be China, but
does provide growth. And the fact that infrastructure is bad, is an
incentive for construction companies to bid for improving that. The
Indian government has already being outsourcing the development of its
Airports to world consortiums from Singapore and Germany. So I am sure
many more projects will be in the pipeline.
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25.RC
Pompano Beach FL
September 23rd, 2010 12:17 pm

Per the article: Lalit Bhanot, the committee’s general secretary, who
told reporters on Thuesday, “everyone has a different standard of
cleanliness. The rooms of the games village are clean according to you
and me, but “they” have some other standard of cleanliness.

”The “they” that is referred to is the rest of the civilized world…
and yes… we do have some other standard of cleanliness… and are
justified in having it.

Working for an airline, my relative has been to India several times
and has had many layovers there that comprise many days, over the
years. She is eclectic, open minded, and loves cultural interaction…
one of the primary reasons of her choice to become a flight attendant
on an international carrier.

Her experience there was gratifying and interesting in some ways. She
is glad to have had the exposure,(no pun intended)… but her general
take is that the standards there are far below that of the west
regarding virtually everything. Her descriptions are best summed up
as: the Taj Mahal is great…deplorable conditions… substandard…
unsanitary… dirty… no desire to ever return there… plan your vacation
to another destination… you’ll be disappointed, and other likewise
comments.

We can look for the reasons why this is the case, but reasons are
inconsequential to people from the international community who arrive
in India as tourists, guests, dignitaries, business men/women, or
athletes. This is a serious blow to any sought after prestige by India
within the international community. Their embarrassment and
humiliation is well deserved as a result of this debacle.

Mr. Mahoot is to be commended for having the gumption to apologize,
which, seems quite sincere to me. His shame is evident, and I can
empathize with him.

Let the Games begin!… perhaps after a nights good sleep in between
clean and sanitary sheets.
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26.ScottNYCSeptember 23rd, 20101:17 pm

The British are offering advice on levels of cleanliness? LOL

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Paedophile priest Vince Ryan out of jail

By Joanne McCarthy
The Newcastle Herald
Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Hunter paedophile priest Vince Ryan left jail for the first time in
more than 14 years yesterday -- a jacket hood over his head, an arm
across his face, and a satellite device strapped to his body
monitoring his every move.

Ryan, 72, said nothing as a NSW Corrective Services car slowed to
clear the Long Bay Jail gates at noon, and drove off to take the
former Maitland-Newcastle Catholic Diocese priest to a halfway house
for newly released long-term jail inmates.

The waiting media did not get to ask Ryan questions about how he felt
to be released after serving his sentence, or if he had anything to
say to his 35 known victims and their families.

"That seems to be it then," a Corrective Services media spokesman
said as the car turned onto Anzac Parade outside the jail.

In an earlier interview Maitland-Newcastle Bishop Michael Malone, who
visited Ryan in jail, said the former priest had frequently expressed
remorse for his crimes against boys aged six to 14 between 1972 and
1991.

Ryan will not be returning to the Hunter under the terms of a
memorandum of understanding with the Bishop, and will never practise
as a priest again after having his faculties removed.

The Corrective Services spokesman said Ryan was one of 30 convicted
sex offenders tracked 24 hours a day via a satellite device. He is on
parole for the next four years.

A woman whose son committed suicide before police could confirm he
was one of Ryan's victims said she was "pretty numb" yesterday at
the former priest's release.

"You can't change what's happened but I don't think the Catholic
Church will ever recover from what they've done to children," she
said.

Maitland-Newcastle Diocese paid more than $6 million to some of
Ryan's victims after proof that at least one member of clergy, the
late Monsignor Patrick Cotter, knew of his offending and "decided to
say nothing".

Ryan was sent to Melbourne in 1975 for "treatment" but he wrote a
different story for the Manning Valley parish newsletter on his
appointment in 1995, one year before he was charged.

The Melbourne year was to "take a sabbatical", mix with clergy and
lay people and "do things you've never done before, like going to
continental movie houses to expand your mind", he said.

"I took on racing in a big way. It was the first time I'd ever gone
to a racecourse. It was incredible. It was a great year."

Ryan returned to Maitland-Newcastle Diocese in 1976. He was charged
with sexually assaulting at least 25 more children after that date.

More at:
http://www.theherald.com.au/news/local/news/general/paedophile-priest-vince-ryan-out-of-jail/1908281.aspx

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WW III Weapon

Stuxnet worm mystery: What’s the cyber weapon after?

Stuxnet worm attack has been centered on Iran, studies show. Experts
offer dueling theories as to the cyber weapon’s target: Iran’s Bushehr
nuclear power plant or the nuclear fuel centrifuge facility at Natanz?

In this 2008 file photo released by the Iranian President’s Office,
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, center, visits the Natanz
Uranium Enrichment Facility some 200 miles south of Tehran. Some cyber
security experts say the Natanz plant could be the target of the
Stuxnet worm.
Iranian President’s Office/AP/File

By Mark Clayton, Staff writer / September 24, 2010

Top industrial control systems experts have now gleaned enough about
the Stuxnet worm to classify it as a cyber superweapon. But the
mystery of what its target is – or was – remains unsolved, though
guesswork about its mission is intensifying among those who have
studied Stuxnet’s complicated code.

Educated guesses about what Stuxnet, described as the world’s first
cyber guided missile, is programmed to destroy include the reactor for
Iran’s new Bushehr nuclear power plant, as well as Iran’s nuclear fuel
centrifuge plant in Natanz. Both facilities are part of Tehran’s
nuclear program, which Iranian officials say is for peaceful purposes
but that many other countries, including the United States, suspect
are part of an atom-bombmaking apparatus.

The Bushehr power plant was supposed to be humming by now, but is not
– a possible sign that Stuxnet impaired one of its vital systems, says
one computer security expert. But another analyst who has also been
assisting on the Stuxnet case says the worm’s internal order makes
that scenario unlikely. The nuclear fuel centrifuge plant in the
Iranian town of Natanz is a better fit and a larger nuclear threat, he
says.

There is no independent confirmation that Bushehr or Natanz or
anyplace else has been attacked by a directed cyberweapon. But
competing theories are emerging about Stuxnet’s target. Here are two
from a cybersecurity duo from Germany who have worked, separately, on
deconstructing Stuxnet – and why they think what they do.

Ralph Langner is no Middle East policy wonk or former diplomat privy
to insider information. He is a German software security engineer with
a particular expertise in industrial control system software created
by industrial giant Siemens for use in factories, refineries, and
power plants worldwide.

This week, Mr. Langner became the first person to detail Stuxnet’s
peculiar attack features. He explained, for example, how Stuxnet
“fingerprints” each industrial network it infiltrates to determine if
it has identified the right system to destroy. Stuxnet was developed
to attack just one target in the world, Langner says and other experts
confirm. His best guess as to the target?

During an interview with the Monitor about Stuxnet’s technical
capabilities, Langner pointed at the Bushehr nuclear power plant. He
cites shards of information he has gleaned from open sources,
including news accounts, as well as his technical understanding of the
attack software. Here are his main arguments for his case.

Iran is the epicenter of the Stuxnet infection. Geographic studies by
Microsoft, Symantec, and others show the majority of infections to be
in Iran, making it a likely location for Stuxnet’s presumed target.

• Bushehr is a high-value target. Damaging the nuclear power plant
would deal a blow to Iran – a blow that would be worth the
considerable time and money a government would expend to develop such
as sophisticated cyberweapon.

• Concern about Bushehr is high among nations with cyberwar
capability. The imminent completion of the nuclear plant has roiled
the international community. Dismayed parties include the US and
Israel, in particular. But China, Russia, and France also are presumed
to have sophisticated cyberwarfare capabilities.

• Bushehr uses Siemens software and equipment. Stuxnet appears to
target Siemens SCADA systems. Bushehr was built largely with equipment
from Siemens, the German industrial giant that began the reactors in
the 1970s but later pulled out of the project. The plant still uses
industrial control software created by Siemens, but it has been
installed by Russian contractors.

• Stuxnet spreads via USB memory sticks. A steady flow of Russian
contractors to the Bushehr construction site ensured outside access to
the plant’s computer system. USB memory sticks are an invaluable tool
for engineers during construction of sophisticated computer-intensive
projects. Contractors building the plant would likely have made wide
use of them – giving Stuxnet a way to move into the plant without
having to rely on the Internet.

• Bushehr’s cyberdefenses are dubious. A journalist’s photo from
inside the Bushehr plant in early 2009, which Langner found on a
public news website, shows a computer-screen schematic diagram of a
process control system – but also a small dialog box on the screen
with a red warning symbol. Langner says the image on the computer
screen is of a Siemens supervisory control and data acquisition
(SCADA) industrial software control system called Simatic WinCC – and
the little warning box reveals that the software was not installed or
configured correctly, and was not licensed. That photo was a red flag
that the nuclear plant was vulnerable to a cyberattack, he says.

“Bushehr has all kinds of missiles around it to protect it from an
airstrike,” Langner says. “But this little screen showed anyone that
understood what that picture meant … that these guys were just simply
begging to be [cyber]attacked.”

The picture was reportedly taken on Feb. 25, 2009, by which time the
reactor should have had its cybersystems up and running and
bulletproof, Langner says. The photo strongly suggests that they were
not, he says. That increases the likelihood that Russian contractors
unwittingly spread Stuxnet via their USB drives to Bushehr, he says.

“The attackers realized they could not get to the target simply
through the Internet – a nuclear plant is not reachable that way,” he
says. “But the engineers who commission such plants work very much
with USBs like those Stuxnet exploited to spread itself. They’re using
notebook computers and using the USBs to connect to one machine, then
maybe going 20 yards away to another machine.”

In the end, the evidence pointing most strongly toward Bushehr is
Bushehr itself, Langner says. “What would be the one prime target that
would be worth the whole scenario – all the money, the teams of
experts needed to develop Stuxnet? Bushehr is the one target that
might be worth the cost.”

Not so fast, says Frank Rieger, a German researcher with GSMK, a
Berlin encryption firm that has been helping governments on the
Stuxnet case, who is familiar with the internal architecture of
Stuxnet. His theory is that Stuxnet’s target is a different facility
in Iran: Natanz.

The Natanz nuclear centrifuge facility is widely condemned as a
nuclear weapons threat. It currently produces low-enriched uranium for
power plants, but nonproliferation experts it could be converted to
produce highly enriched uranium fuel for use in nuclear weapons.

Two things in particular may make Natanz a more likely Stuxnet target,
Mr. Rieger says.

• Stuxnet had a halt date. Internal time signatures in Stuxnet appear
to prevent it from spreading across computer systems after July 2009.
That probably means the attack had to be conducted by then – though
such time signatures are not certain.

• Stuxnet appears designed to take over centrifuges’ programmable
logic controllers. Natanz has thousands of identical centrifuges and
identical programmable logic controllers (PLCs), tiny computers for
each centrifuge that oversee the centrifuge’s temperature, control
valves, operating speed, and flow of cooling water. Stuxnet’s internal
design would allow the malware to take over PLCs one after another, in
a cookie-cutter fashion.

“It seems like the parts of Stuxnet dealing with PLCs have been
designed to work on multiple nodes at once – which makes it fit well
with a centrifuge plant like Natanz,” Rieger says. By contrast,
Bushehr is a big central facility with many disparate PLCs performing
many different functions. Stuxnet seems focused on replicating its
intrusion across a lot of identical units in a single plant, he says.

Natanz also may have been hit by Stuxnet in mid-2009, Rieger says. He
notes that “a serious, recent, nuclear accident” was reported at that
time on WikiLeaks, the same organization that recently revealed US
Afghanistan-war documents. About the same time, the BBC reported that
the head of Iran’s nuclear agency had resigned.

Lending some credence to the notion that Stuxnet attacked more than a
year ago, he says, is the International Atomic Energy Agency’s finding
of a sudden 15 percent drop in the number of working centrifuges at
the Natanz site. Rieger posted that data on his blog.

“Bushehr didn’t present the immediate threat that Natanz and the other
centrifuge plants did at that time and still do,” Rieger says. “What
is clear is that there was an enormous amount of effort spent to do
Stuxnet in this way, and it all points [to a target with] a high level
of priority assigned to it by the people who did it.”

Virus hits Iran nuclear programme
By Daniel Dombey in Washington and agencies

Published: September 27 2010 01:56 | Last updated: September 27 2010
01:56

Iran confirmed on Sunday that its nuclear programme had been affected
by a mysterious computer virus, but sought to play down the impact.

Mahmoud Jafari, head of the Bushehr nuclear power plant, said the
Stuxnet worm had only affected staff computers rather than the system
running the reactor itself.

EDITOR’S CHOICE

Iranian president sours nuclear talks hopes – Sep-23.Sunni-led Arab
states on alert over Shia Iran – Sep-23.UN powers ready for new talks
with Iran – Sep-23.Russia axes missile deal with Iran – Sep-22.Gulf
states in $123bn US arms spree – Sep-20.Iran fear triggers arms surge
– Sep-20..“A team is inspecting several computers to remove the
malware … Major systems of the plant have not been damaged,” he told
the official IRNA news agency.

But Iran’s state-run Mehr news agency reported that the IP addresses
of 30,000 computer systems infected by the worm had also been
detected.

Stuxnet, the first program designed to cause serious damage in the
physical world, has hit an unknown number of power plants, pipelines
and factories over the past year.

Since Iran has suffered most of the infections, questions have been
raised about whether the virus is connected to western governments’
top secret sabotage campaign against Tehran’s nuclear programme.

Ashgear Zarean, deputy head of Iran’s Atomic Energy Agency, insisted
that precautions had prevented the worm from hitting Bushehr.

“It is expected that the vigilance and skills of Iranian experts would
once again thwart the cyber-warfare of the enemies,” he said.

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Paedophile priest Vince Ryan out of jail

By Joanne McCarthy
The Newcastle Herald
Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Hunter paedophile priest Vince Ryan left jail for the first time in
more than 14 years yesterday -- a jacket hood over his head, an arm
across his face, and a satellite device strapped to his body
monitoring his every move.

Ryan, 72, said nothing as a NSW Corrective Services car slowed to
clear the Long Bay Jail gates at noon, and drove off to take the
former Maitland-Newcastle Catholic Diocese priest to a halfway house
for newly released long-term jail inmates.

The waiting media did not get to ask Ryan questions about how he felt
to be released after serving his sentence, or if he had anything to
say to his 35 known victims and their families.

"That seems to be it then," a Corrective Services media spokesman
said as the car turned onto Anzac Parade outside the jail.

In an earlier interview Maitland-Newcastle Bishop Michael Malone, who
visited Ryan in jail, said the former priest had frequently expressed
remorse for his crimes against boys aged six to 14 between 1972 and
1991.

Ryan will not be returning to the Hunter under the terms of a
memorandum of understanding with the Bishop, and will never practise
as a priest again after having his faculties removed.

The Corrective Services spokesman said Ryan was one of 30 convicted
sex offenders tracked 24 hours a day via a satellite device. He is on
parole for the next four years.

A woman whose son committed suicide before police could confirm he
was one of Ryan's victims said she was "pretty numb" yesterday at
the former priest's release.

"You can't change what's happened but I don't think the Catholic
Church will ever recover from what they've done to children," she
said.

Maitland-Newcastle Diocese paid more than $6 million to some of
Ryan's victims after proof that at least one member of clergy, the
late Monsignor Patrick Cotter, knew of his offending and "decided to
say nothing".

Ryan was sent to Melbourne in 1975 for "treatment" but he wrote a
different story for the Manning Valley parish newsletter on his
appointment in 1995, one year before he was charged.

The Melbourne year was to "take a sabbatical", mix with clergy and
lay people and "do things you've never done before, like going to
continental movie houses to expand your mind", he said.

"I took on racing in a big way. It was the first time I'd ever gone
to a racecourse. It was incredible. It was a great year."

Ryan returned to Maitland-Newcastle Diocese in 1976. He was charged
with sexually assaulting at least 25 more children after that date.

More at:
http://www.theherald.com.au/news/local/news/general/paedophile-priest-vince-ryan-out-of-jail/1908281.aspx

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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CWG XIX: Communal War Games XXXXXVVVVV
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Hello CWG XXXXXVVVVV

India’s capital locked down ahead of Commonwealth Games

By Sudipto Ganguly and Amlan Chakraborty

NEW DELHI | Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:58am EDT

NEW DELHI (Reuters) – Security forces have taken over Commonwealth
Games venues and places like luxury hotels and metro stations in New
Delhi to ensure thousands of athletes from around the world are safe
against possible attacks by militants.

The lockdown, backed by the presence of 100,000 police across the
Indian capital comes as athletes were busy training for the October
3-14 multi-sports event.

India will use an array of commandos, snipers and police to protect up
to 8,000 athletes and officials staying at the Games Village
accommodation hub.

“The guns are actually making me feel more comfortable,” said Lauren
Mitchell, a gymnast competing for Australia.

MiG fighter jets and armed helicopters would be on standby for the
Games and Mi-35 attack helicopters would be airborne during opening
and closing ceremonies, the India Express daily said.

Mobile surface-to-air missiles and anti-aircraft guns have also been
deployed.

India had hoped to use the Games to display its growing economic and
political influence, rivaling neighbor China, which put on a
spectacular 2008 Beijing Summer Olympics.

But an attack on Taiwanese tourists by suspected militants, a dengue
fever epidemic, some filthy apartments in the athletes village, and
the collapse of a footbridge injuring 27 workers has forced India on
the defensive.

Venues are now finally coming into place with all 71 teams of the
Commonwealth due to be in place by Thursday.

Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit reviewed the facilities at the
Commonwealth Games Village on Wednesday and expressed satisfaction at
the progress made.

The estimated $6 billion spent on the Games and infrastructure linked
to it, including a new international airport, a metro system and
flyover highways as well as the cleaning of the city, are still
expected to give a boost.

SECURITY CONCERNS

Several top athletes have pulled out of the Games because of security
and health concerns, although some have also decided to skip the
competition because of injury.

India has long been a target for Pakistani-based militants, mainly
fighting for against Indian rule in Kashmir, a Himalayan region.
Homegrown militants have also carried out a series of bombings in
recent years.

In a positive sign on the diplomatic front, Indian Foreign Minister SM
Krishna invited his Pakistani counterpart to attend the Games.

“Foreign Minister (Shah Mehmood) Qureshi is most welcome to witness
some of the Games at least, and there again give us a chance… to
continue the dialogue,” S.M. Krishna told NDTV news channel in
comments aired on Wednesday.

The two sides are trying to improve ties that plummeted after the 2008
Mumbai attacks which killed 166 people and derailed a sluggish four-
year-old peace process with Pakistan.

Indian states are also on high alert on the eve of a ruling over
whether Hindus or Muslims own land around the Babri mosque in northern
India, a controversy that led to the deaths of some 2,000 people in
1992.

SEMENYA OUT

Caster Semenya, the women’s 800 metres world champion, has withdrawn
from the Games because of a back injury, dealing the event another
blow, South Africa’s Olympic body said.

The 19-year-old, cleared to compete in July after gender tests had put
her career on hold since she won the world title in August 2009, has
suffered serious lower back pain and has been uncomfortable in her
last few races.

Teams were practicing in the sprawling Games Village, which, despite
being criticized for the lack of cleanliness in some apartments, has
extensive training facilities. The competition venues have also been
praised.

“Great venues out there, the cycling stadium, the amazing wrestling
facility. I have never seen a wrestling facility like this. The
gymnastic venue was also terrific,” said Steve Moneghetti, Chef-de-
Mission for Australia.

High-profile athletes missing from the Games include world champion
sprinter Usain Bolt, who said the event had come too late in the year,
and Kenyan 800 metres world record holder David Rudisha, who blamed
fatigue for his withdrawal.

Other athletes have pulled out citing health concerns surrounding
dirty accommodation in the village while some have withdrawn because
of fears over security.

In a boost for the Games, Isle of Man cyclist Mark Cavendish, a Tour
de France stage winner and one of the world’s best sprinters, said he
would compete in the road race.

(Additional reporting by Jasion Humphries in DURBAN and Ken Ferris in
JOHANNESBURG; Writing by Paul de Bendern; editing by Alistair Scrutton
and John O’Brien)

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2010-09-29 10:04:21 UTC
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CWG XIX: Communal War Games XXXXXVVVVV
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Hello CWG XXXXXVVVVV

India’s capital locked down ahead of Commonwealth Games

By Sudipto Ganguly and Amlan Chakraborty

NEW DELHI | Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:58am EDT

NEW DELHI (Reuters) – Security forces have taken over Commonwealth
Games venues and places like luxury hotels and metro stations in New
Delhi to ensure thousands of athletes from around the world are safe
against possible attacks by militants.

The lockdown, backed by the presence of 100,000 police across the
Indian capital comes as athletes were busy training for the October
3-14 multi-sports event.

India will use an array of commandos, snipers and police to protect up
to 8,000 athletes and officials staying at the Games Village
accommodation hub.

“The guns are actually making me feel more comfortable,” said Lauren
Mitchell, a gymnast competing for Australia.

MiG fighter jets and armed helicopters would be on standby for the
Games and Mi-35 attack helicopters would be airborne during opening
and closing ceremonies, the India Express daily said.

Mobile surface-to-air missiles and anti-aircraft guns have also been
deployed.

India had hoped to use the Games to display its growing economic and
political influence, rivaling neighbor China, which put on a
spectacular 2008 Beijing Summer Olympics.

But an attack on Taiwanese tourists by suspected militants, a dengue
fever epidemic, some filthy apartments in the athletes village, and
the collapse of a footbridge injuring 27 workers has forced India on
the defensive.

Venues are now finally coming into place with all 71 teams of the
Commonwealth due to be in place by Thursday.

Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit reviewed the facilities at the
Commonwealth Games Village on Wednesday and expressed satisfaction at
the progress made.

The estimated $6 billion spent on the Games and infrastructure linked
to it, including a new international airport, a metro system and
flyover highways as well as the cleaning of the city, are still
expected to give a boost.

SECURITY CONCERNS

Several top athletes have pulled out of the Games because of security
and health concerns, although some have also decided to skip the
competition because of injury.

India has long been a target for Pakistani-based militants, mainly
fighting for against Indian rule in Kashmir, a Himalayan region.
Homegrown militants have also carried out a series of bombings in
recent years.

In a positive sign on the diplomatic front, Indian Foreign Minister SM
Krishna invited his Pakistani counterpart to attend the Games.

“Foreign Minister (Shah Mehmood) Qureshi is most welcome to witness
some of the Games at least, and there again give us a chance… to
continue the dialogue,” S.M. Krishna told NDTV news channel in
comments aired on Wednesday.

The two sides are trying to improve ties that plummeted after the 2008
Mumbai attacks which killed 166 people and derailed a sluggish four-
year-old peace process with Pakistan.

Indian states are also on high alert on the eve of a ruling over
whether Hindus or Muslims own land around the Babri mosque in northern
India, a controversy that led to the deaths of some 2,000 people in
1992.

SEMENYA OUT

Caster Semenya, the women’s 800 metres world champion, has withdrawn
from the Games because of a back injury, dealing the event another
blow, South Africa’s Olympic body said.

The 19-year-old, cleared to compete in July after gender tests had put
her career on hold since she won the world title in August 2009, has
suffered serious lower back pain and has been uncomfortable in her
last few races.

Teams were practicing in the sprawling Games Village, which, despite
being criticized for the lack of cleanliness in some apartments, has
extensive training facilities. The competition venues have also been
praised.

“Great venues out there, the cycling stadium, the amazing wrestling
facility. I have never seen a wrestling facility like this. The
gymnastic venue was also terrific,” said Steve Moneghetti, Chef-de-
Mission for Australia.

High-profile athletes missing from the Games include world champion
sprinter Usain Bolt, who said the event had come too late in the year,
and Kenyan 800 metres world record holder David Rudisha, who blamed
fatigue for his withdrawal.

Other athletes have pulled out citing health concerns surrounding
dirty accommodation in the village while some have withdrawn because
of fears over security.

In a boost for the Games, Isle of Man cyclist Mark Cavendish, a Tour
de France stage winner and one of the world’s best sprinters, said he
would compete in the road race.

(Additional reporting by Jasion Humphries in DURBAN and Ken Ferris in
JOHANNESBURG; Writing by Paul de Bendern; editing by Alistair Scrutton
and John O’Brien)

…and I am Sid Harth

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Dr. Jai Maharaj... Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:00 pm

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Forwarded message from Ashok Chowgule

Some points on Rajdeep Sardesai's open letter to Uddhav Thackeray

Friday, February 12, 2010

In an open letter to Uddhav Thackeray, on the Shiv Sena severe
criticism of Shahrukh Khan, Rajdeep Sardesai writes: "Sharukh is no
surprise since the Sena has always been uncomfortable with the Indian
Muslim identity."

Clearly the secularists cannot view ANY issue except on communal
terms. There are some Muslims who are members of the Shiv Sena and
also who support the Shiv Sena. I guess, accoroding to Rajdeepji,
they are really not true Muslims. And what about Muslims who have
also criticised Shahrukhji on this issue? I guess, they too are not
true Muslims.

Rajdeepji also writes: "You've called Sharukh a traitor for wishing
to choose Pakistani cricketers in the IPL. "

This is an utter and blatant lie. But then to show one's so-called
secular credentials it is necessary to resort to lies. Without which
one cannot make any case.

Rajdeepji knows (or should know) that Shahrukh was termed a traitor
by Shiv Sena because he said that Pakistan is a GREAT neighbour.
Now, one can say that Shiv Sena is wrong on this issue. But bring
out his statement out in the public, rather than tell les.
Furthermore, Shajrukhji should be asked why he did not choose any
Paksitani players himself.

Rajdeepji would like Uddahvji to focus on some important issues. For
example, he writes: "Farmer suicides still continue, the after-
effects of drought are still being faced in several districts, but
the focus is now squarely on finding high profile hate figures."

I am sure if Rajdeepji devotes the resources of his channel on these
important issues, instead of giving a minute-by-minute report on the
travel programme of Rahul Gandhi in Mumbai, the people of this
country would be eternally grateful to him.

Rajdeepji writes: "The Congress-NCP government in the state has been
thoroughly incompetent: the last decade has seen Maharashtra decline
on most social and economic parameters."

I do not watch Rajdeepji's channel. Has he highlighted this issue of
incompetence in any meaningful manner?

A general question. Has Rajdeepji written an open letter to Digvijay
Singh on the latter's visit to Azamgarh in UP, which is well-known to
be a hotbed of creators of terrorists in India? He will probably
write a letter in open praise of Digvijayji.

The open letter is available at:

<a href="http://ibnlive.in.com/blogs/rajdeepsardesai/1/61523/an-open-
letter-to-uddhav-thackeray.html">http://ibnlive.in.com/blogs/
rajdeepsardesai/1/61523/an-open-letter-to-uddhav-thackeray.html</a>


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FOOD FOR SOUL

FOOD FOR SOUL

Author Message
Dr. Jai Maharaj Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:14 pm

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Forwarded message from "akash singh" <a
href="***@yahoo.com"***@yahoo.com</a>

[ From: "akash singh" <***@yahoo.com>
[ Subject: Fwd: Food for soul
[ Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003

Pranam,

There is this lady called yamuna harshavardhan from
chennai (where else !!!) who writes an article on
msn.co.in called "food for soul". Primarily it is an
agency for christian propaganda. For all it counts she
herself could be christian. Read through here articles
here on

<a href="http://server1.msn.co.in/foodforsoul/foodindex.asp">http://
server1.msn.co.in/foodforsoul/foodindex.asp</a>

Prior to evangelizing for christianity she had written
some articles on the "mythologies called Ramayana and
Mahabharata". Notice that none of the stories of the
Mahabharata have anything remotely to do with the The
Lord of the Universe, Narayana in his avatar as Lord
Krishna. In contrast look at her iconification and the
hagiography of christ.

Some months back I had pointed this out in a post to the
discussion forum of the column. I had also claimed that
Gates donation of 300 million for AIDS is a not
altogether altruistic. We know that most of the time this
kind of money is used for christian conversions. Also it
does not escape anyone's notice that MSNBC, the
conservative news channel in the US is part owned by
Microsoft. Also has everyone forgotten that Microsoft's
Encarta Encyclopaedia has the material written on
Hinduism by one "wendy doniger".

Attached below is the response from the lady in question.
No mention is made of the issues that I had raised. Only
some references to the fact that so and so is Hindu are
made. The very fact that my post got this lady to respond
means that things are not what they seem to be.

And yes notice that she says "I wish Hindus get educated
about the good in the Bible and then teach the
Christians"

Namaste,
Akash

amuna Harsha <a
href="***@hotmail.com">***@hotmail.com wrote:</a>

Quote:

Pranam Mr. Akash

This is Yamuna Harshavardhana from Chennai writing you
(though rather late as I came by this only now) with
regard to your criticism of Food for soul. I am Hindu
without a doubt and all the mythological stories (so far
all the stories were from the Mahabharata and Ramayana is
to follow the Bible) were written by me. I wonder which
Christian is catholic enough to do so???

Leave Bill Gates aside- he sits in Seattle and
Evangelisation should be far from his business concerns.
I am certain of this as I am associated with MS in ways
other than Food for Soul. Nearer home, the Production
Manager for the MSN India site is Mr Krishna Prasad
(certainly he is not Christian) the website designers are
a company called Vishwak (I am sure it is Hindu) and at
the global level, the MSN World manager is Mr. Aravind
Sampath who I know personally to be a chaste Hindu.
Therefore even you can rest assured MSN is not on an
evangelisation spree - I wish Hindus get educated about
the good in the Bible and then teach the Christians.

I do not mean to be arrogant, but please get your facts
right before you point a finger at any person, Mr. Akash.

With Best Wishes
Yamuna


End of forwarded message from "akash singh" <***@yahoo.com>

Jai Maharaj
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Om Shanti

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Meen Mase Shukl Pakshe Mangal Vasara Yuktayam
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Dr. Jai Maharaj Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:15 pm

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[ From: "Ashok Chowgule" <***@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in>
[ Subject: Re: Fwd: Food for soul
[ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003

When Yamunajis says ("I wish Hindus get educated about
the good in the Bible and then teach the Christians")
there is an implicit assumption that the Christians have
got educated about the good in Hinduism and are now
teaching the Christians. Can she elaborate on this
assumption?



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AFTER CHITPAVAN RALLY, A MULTILINGUAL BRAHMIN CONFERENCE AT BEED

Forwarded message from Ashok Chowgule

After Chitpavan rally, a multilingual Brahmin conference at Beed

By Rakshit Sonawane
The Indian Express
December 27, 2007

Introduction: Maya shadow looms as community talks about
unity move ahead of Lok Sabha elections

Close on the heels of a rally of Chitpavan Brahmins in
Pune, a multilingual conference of Brahmins has been
organised in Beed, indicating a possible political
polarisation of the community in Maharashtra ahead of the
next Lok Sabha elections.

The two-day conference, to be held on January 19 and 20 at
Jani-janardhan Nagar in Beed, is expected to be attended by
Brahmins from all shakhas and also migrants from other
states speaking different languages, unlike the Pune rally
that was exclusively for Chitpavans.

According to political sources, the state-level rallies
might lead to polarisation of the community in the next two
years. Various shakhas of the community have already held
district-level and division-level meetings over the past
one year in the state. These" shakhas have lambasted
mainstream political parties like the Congress for ignoring
Brahmins and have in principle agreed to work for a party
which would give them their share of power.

"The aim of this conference is to unite Brahmins from all
shakhas, work for their welfare and provide guidance to
enable all, including poor

among them, to face the challenges of future with
confidence," Namdeo Kshirsagar, the general secretary of
the Bahu-Bhashik Brahman Maha-Adhiveshan 2008, told The
Indian Express. "We are expecting Brahimins from all parts
of Maharashtra, speaking different languages like Marathi,
Kannada, Tamil, Telugu and Hindi to attend the conference."

"We are not only going to deliberate on our traditions; but
also discuss women's issues, education and self-employment
opportunities for ' the poorer among us," he said.

When asked whether, the conference would have any political
overtones, he replied in affirmative. "The political link
is there...it can't be separated," he said.

"Some Brahmins are already in politics, but are divided
into various parties and organisations. We want to unite
them." He pointed, out that some senior politicians would
be felicitated at the conference, which would also
enlighten the participants on various issues, including
asserting themselves politically. He added that guidance
would be provided for overall development of Brahmins,
materially and intellectually. "For instance, we'll also
provide information on modern methods of farming to
Brahmins of who till land," he said.

The agenda of the conference includes: giving up
traditional practices that are harmful to society,
providing information on modern technology and employment
opportunities, inculcating the need for bringing in social
equality, making efforts to help needy students and
unemployed youths, and empowering Brahmin women to face the
modern world.

Though the percentage of Brahmins in the state is around
three, most of them are highly educated and hold
responsible positions in the government and private sector.
There are a few pockets in the state, where Brahmin voters
can tilt the scales in elections. "There is a feeling among
the Brahmins that despite. their intelligence, they are
sidelined in politics and thereby denied power in the
democratic setup," a senior politician said, pointing out
that the recent awareness in the community had come after
BSP leader Mayawati's "sarvajan hitaya" experiment by
teaming up with Brahmins in Uttar Pradesh and giving them
powerful political positions.

However, the BSP has denied it has a hand in organising the
conferences.

"It is true that there is a renaissance and Brahmins are
coming together after the Uttar Pradesh experiment, but we
have no role to play (in organizing Brahmin conferences),"
the state general secretary of BSP Suresh Mane said. "It is
a spontaneous activity."

Nevertheless, it may be recalled that some speakers at the
Chitpavan rally at Pune had urged the community to
introspect on its political fate and warned the government
about a polarisation on the lines of Uttar Pradesh.

End of forwarded message from Ashok Chowgule

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Mr. Ashok V. Chowgule
Vice President
Vishwa Hindu Parishad
Maharashtra, India

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Ashok Chowgule,Vice-President, VHP

From: Ashok Chowgule

To: Sultan Shahin ***@NewAgeIslam.com

Ashok Chowgule, Vice-President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad

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Ashok Chowgule

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Ashok V Chowgule

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Ashok Chowgule

Deceased Graham Stewart Staines (hereinafter referred to as
'Staines')
as an Australian National whose tryst with Mayurbhanj in Orissa began
in the year 1965 when he made rendezvous with its District
Headquarter
at Baripada for treatment and eradication of Leprosy amongst the poor
and did an excellent job in the field.He became the honorary
Secretary
of Baripada Leprosy Home.He was also the Secretary of the Evangelical
Missionary Society of Mayurbhanj (EMSM).As a missionary, he was
preaching Gospel and spreading the tenets of Christianity in jungle
camps held in different tribal belts in the district of Mayurbhanj
and
Keonjhar.

www.newageislam.org/NewAgeIslamRadicalIslamismAndJihad_ - [Cached
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Published on: 9/29/2009 Last Visited: 12/9/2009

Ashok Chowgule, Vice-President, VHP

Ashok Chowgule, Vice-President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad

conoship.com/uk/press/page55.htm - [Cached Version]

Published on: 10/6/2006 Last Visited: 9/8/2007

Yard boss Ashok Chowgule says Indian coastal shipping is still
undeveloped and presents revenue-earning opportunities.

Ashok Chowgule: in shipbuilding for the long haul.

The industrial and shipping group was started by Chowgule & Co
executive director Ashok Chowgule's grandfather with a small
manufacturing business.

Today, the group is involved in industrial explosives, salt and
gases,
as well as brewing, marketing agencies and machine fabrication.Its
iron-ore mining generates around three million tonnes of exports per
year, some two million tonnes to Japan and one million tonnes to
China.All are free-onboard (FOB) contracts.

Involved in the business are the Chowgule brothers, Ashok and group
chief executive Vijay, and their first cousins.Ashok and Vijay's
father is now 91 years old but is described as being "still not
exactly retired".

Ashok says India's manufacturing strength is not appreciated given
its
educated workforce, industrial knowledge and strong, commercial and
legal infrastructure, 'which, he claims, makes it relatively easy to
operate in the country.

Things happen slowly in India but those who get into shipbuilding,
given the environmental-impact hoops they have to go through, are
serious players and will be there for the long term, says Ashok
Chowgule.

www.hinduvoice.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi?flavor=archive - [Cached
Version]

Published on: 5/24/2007 Last Visited: 5/24/2007

On 5/22/07, Ashok Chowgule

www.letindiadevelop.org/resources.html - [Cached Version]
Published on: 4/24/2006 Last Visited: 5/18/2009

by Ashok Chowgule in association with Hindu Vivek Kendra

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Version]

Published on: 7/14/2009 Last Visited: 12/9/2009

Ashok Chowgule has posted an 18 month old off-topic article in this
dicussion of the veil. While sanghis and VHP-ites write frequently in
Muslim oriented outlets, Muslim community leaders, including even the
editor of Milli Gazette, cannot get their letters published in
newspapers such as the Pioneer!

7/15/2009 9:50:11 AM Ashok Chowgule, Vice President, Vishwa Hindu
Paris

Ashok Chowgule

toSultan ***@NewAgeIslam.com

Ashok Chowgule, Vice President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP)

www.newageislam.org/NewAgeIslamWarOnTerror_1.aspx?Artic - [Cached
Version]

Published on: 11/1/2001 Last Visited: 12/9/2009

Ashok Chowgule

With reference to the enclosed article.

Ashok Chowgule, Vive President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad

10/31/2009 1:42:21 AM

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www.conoship.com/uk/press/page54.htm - [Cached Version]

Published on: 9/8/2007 Last Visited: 9/8/2007

Yard boss Ashok Chowgule says Indian coastal shipping is still
undeveloped and presents revenue-earning opportunities.But first,
cargo has to be generated.

Chowgule Group is widely known for its iron-ore mining activities and
bulker fleet but it is now playing a key role in the country's rise
to
prominence on the international shipbuilding scene.

Early last year, Chowgule secured contracts for six multipurpose
cargoships (Multi Purpose Cargos) from a joint venture involving
Navigia, the Dutch affiliate of Germany's Rudolf Schoning, and
Hamburg­
based Apollo Shipping.

All this is a huge leap from Chowgule building inland barges for the
domestic market.Its sights are now set on constructing coastal
vessels
for the group's own use and eventually containerships and products
tankers.

Chowgule's international presence has been achieved by becoming an
associate member of the Groningen, Holland-based Conoship marketing
and design organization.

Conoship is assisting Chowgule develop its Loutulim and Rassaim yards
in the state of Goa and has put it in touch with equipment suppliers,
including hatch-cover and main engine manufacturers.It has also
organised the design house in Holland for the Multi Purpose Cargo
production drawings.

Also, Conoship helped educate Chowgule in how ships of this size are
produced in Holland.New computer numerical control (CNC) cutting
equipment was purchased from Australia based on broad specifications
outlined by Conoship.The 20 identical Multi Purpose Cargo's of 4,450
dwt have an aggregate price of around $120m based on an average of
$6m
per unit.

Ashok Chowgule, the group's shipyard division executive director,
says
the origins of the shipyard business can be traced back to the
family's iron-ore mining activities and its building and repair of
mechanized barges for hauling the ore by river to ports.

Grab and suction dredgers, deep-sea fishing trawlers, tugs, hopper
barges and coastal ships have all been produced over the years - more
than 100 so far in total.But Ashok Chowgule says that for a long time
it remained a relatively small production, partly because of India's
environmental regulations preventing the establishment of large
private-sector shipyards.When circumstances changed in the 1990s,
Chowgule started investing and within the space of 18 months built
around 23 inland barges totaling roughly 55,000 dwt.

Infrastructure improvements have in recent years included up­grading
Rassaim from repair to newbuildings, concreting areas of the yards
and
currently converting workshops for fabrication usage.Also, new
covered
areas are manufacturing hatch covers designed by Roden Staal, which
will also be present to supervise final construction and fitting.

Currently, the Chowgule yards employ around 45 people in
administration, accounts, commercial and technical roles, while
around
500 to 600 workers are subcontracted in depending on requirements.

"We have invested in getting them trained for the requirements of a
modern yard," insisted Ashok Chowgule.He claims that as regards
steelwork, standards are already 99% of those found inEurope.The
quality of machinery installation is less clear, although still
"good"
with the help of sup- pliers.

Much depends on improving management skills and giving them the
"right
tools to do the job" adds Chowgule.

There are no European managers employed at the yards but overseas
consultants are used regularly.

Ashok Chowgule concedes that India has benefited from the general
overspill of work from full yards in China.One obvious advantage,
however, is labour costs being a fraction of competitors in the West.

Typical yard pay is about EUR 0.50 ($0.60) per hour, as compared with
EUR 20 in Holland.

Conoship introduced owners to Goa, where Ashok Chowgule says it did
not take long to convince them of its potential.The initial contact
with Conoship took a long time but it did not take long to persuade
them to work together. . Holland was targeted as a partner because of
its excellent track record in building smaller cargoships.

The shipyard chief hopes that within the next few months, when
Chowgule is scheduled to deliver the first Multi Purpose Cargos, it
can prove it has fast-tracked in achieving European levels of
workmanship.

Its 20-strong series of Multi Purpose Cargos is scheduled for
completion between January 2007 and December 2009.Ashok Chowgule
believes that because of investments in the yards, the last may even
be a few months early.
...
Yards in the global market as reliable suppliers of cargoships of up
to 6,000 dwt, says Ashok Chowgule.They will focus on building
containerships and possibly products tankers once the Multi Purpose
Cargos are delivered.

"At the moment we aren't actively in those markets because we want to
concentrate our energies in making the yards efficiently" he said.

We have introduced many new things and know it will take a lot of
effort and a certain amount of time.

He estimates the Multi Purpose Cargos are costing between 5% and 7%
below European prices.

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Published on: 9/28/2009 Last Visited: 12/9/2009

Objective Condition/Matter is the primary source for the idea, It can
lead Buddha to go to jungle in search for Nirvana, conditions could
lead a small time thief Ajmal Kassab to come to India along with his
compatriots on a so-called Jihad mission and kill innocent civilians,
Conditions is the First and foremost factor that it can give a super
constitutional authority to Mr Chowgule to put to test any Muslim
citizen in India for trustworthiness, religious beliefs etc.

Instead of welcoming this great moment and great efforts on the part
of two dignitaries, who are an authority in their respective field,
Mr. Chowgule has targeted the integrity of Malauna, who really don't
need any certificate from anyone, including Sang Parivar and its
progenies to prove his credentials.

If Ajma Kassab and Ashok Chowgule are the faces of same coin, so
please don't be surprised if you may come to know, Afghan Jihadi-Anti
War Forces are two sides of the same coin.

Ashok Chowgule, Vice-President, VHP

From: Ashok Chowgule
...
Ashok Chowgule, Vice-President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad

9/30/2009 5:43:48 AM

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Published on: 7/8/1998 Last Visited: 3/23/2007

Posted By Ashok V. Chowgule (***@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in)

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Published on: 12/10/2008 Last Visited: 4/7/2009

Ashok Chowgule, Vice President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP)

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Ashok Chowgule, Vice President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad

Ashok Chowgule, Vice President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP)

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Published on: 3/23/2007 Last Visited: 3/23/2007

Ashok Chowgule President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Maharashtra

The Ram Janmabhoomi issue has revolutionised the politics of the
country.A fragmented Hindu samaj has been united to an extent unheard
of in recent times.

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Last Visited: 3/23/2007

Ashok Chowgule President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Maharashtra.

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Published on: 8/7/2006 Last Visited: 3/23/2007

Ashok Chowgule, President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Maharashtra, India

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Last Visited: 9/27/2008

Yard boss Ashok Chowgule says Indian coastal shipping is still
undeveloped and presents revenue-earning opportunities.
...
Ashok Chowgule: in shipbuilding for the long haul.

Ashok Chowgule

The industrial and shipping group was started by Chowgule & Co
executive director Ashok Chowgule's grandfather with a small
manufacturing business.

Involved in the business are the Chowgule brothers, Ashok and group
chief executive Vijay, and their first cousins.Ashok and Vijay's
father is now 91 years old but is described as being "still not
exactly retired".

Ashok says India's manufacturing strength is not appreciated given
its
educated workforce, industrial knowledge and strong, commercial and
legal infrastructure, 'which, he claims, makes it relatively easy to
operate in the country.

Things happen slowly in India but those who get into shipbuilding,
given the environmental-impact hoops they have to go through, are
serious players and will be there for the long term, says Ashok
Chowgule.

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Published on: 1/30/1995 Last Visited: 7/7/2004

Ashok Chowgule, President of Maharashtra State unit of the Vishwa
Hindu Parishad in his book Christianity in India - The Hindutva
Perspective has narrated the acts of atrocities by the Catholic
Church
on the Hindus.

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Last Visited: 3/10/2009

But there is also, mostly in the BJP, a strong no-nonsense wing of
businessmen, more or less the old (pro-Western, anti-socialist)
Swatantra Party constituency, which has no patience with such
sentimentalism, and refuses to "turn India into a conservation site".
116 Thus, the VHP president for the Mumbai region, Ashok Chowgule,
owned (until 1998, when he sold it) a company which furnished cement
to the Narmada Dam.

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Published on: 4/24/2006 Last Visited: 5/18/2009

At the time, the President of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP),
Maharashtra Pranth, Ashok Chowgule commented as follows:

To this, Ashok Chowgule responded as follows:

[107] This section draws extensively from "An analysis of the
report :
'The Foreign Exchange of Hate - IDRF and the American funding of
Hindutva' " prepared by Ashok Chowgule in association with Hindu
Vivek

Kendra (<a href="http://www.hvk.org">http://www.hvk.org</a>)

A Factual Response to the Hate Attack on the India... - [Cached
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Published on: 4/24/2006 Last Visited: 12/25/2008

Ashok Chowgule is an industrialist, managing sections of the family
business, a well-known, successful, and respected business house. The
group is headquartered in Goa. The family has set up schools and a
college in Goa, operations in which Ashok takes keen interest.

Ashok completed his schooling in Belgaum, India after which he went
on
to graduate in Economics and Statistics from Bristol University in
the
U. K., and completed his business studies at the Case Western
University in Cleveland, Ohio. Upon returning home, he has looked
after the finance and administration of the business group, and
lately
has been supervising the shipbuilding component of the family
business.

As a part of his social responsibilities, he has been actively
involved in the Vishwa Hindu Parishad since 1991, and at present is
the President of the Maharashtra State unit of the organisation. He
has written several articles and books on the socio-political issues
of Hindutva. Ashok and Hindu Vivek Kendra (HVK) have also recently
published an analysis and of the Sabrang/FOIL Report titled "An
Analysis Of The Report 'The Foreign Exchange Of Hate."

A Tribute to Hinduism - [Cached Version]

Published on: 10/30/2000 Last Visited: 7/10/2006

By Ashok Chowgule

(Ashok Chowgule, President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Maharashtra).

AWAAZ - South Asia Watch - [Cached Version]
Last Visited: 8/17/2008

But VHP's Ashok Chowgule said in an interview: "We deny all the
allegations.

But Ashok Chowgule, a senior member of the VHP (World Council of
Hindu
Churches), a prominent affiliate of the RSS, said: "We deny all of
the
allegations.

Adelaide IMC: newswire/8876 - [Cached Version]

Published on: 9/9/2004 Last Visited: 8/13/2005

Ashok Chowgule, president of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Maharashtra
region, counters in an email statement that 'if this provocation
argument has to be accepted, then we have to accept that the
terrorist
attacks of September 11 on the USA was entirely justified because the
terrorists have said that they have been provoked by the policy of
the
USA'.

Ashok Chowgule | Rating of NGOs | www.karmayog.org - [Cached Version]

Published on: 6/2/2007 Last Visited: 11/25/2008

Ashok Chowgule ***@chowgulegoa.com

Assocham -- Managing Comittee Members - [Cached Version]

Published on: 6/12/2000 Last Visited: 2/2/2001

Mr. Ashok V. Chowgule Director Chowgule & Co.Ltd.Bakhtawar 4th Floor,
Nariman Point MUMBAI - 400 021

BJP FRIENDS - Old Article - [Cached Version]

Published on: 4/17/1996 Last Visited: 2/16/2009

Ashok Chowgule

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Published on: 10/12/2004 Last Visited: 10/23/2005

BANGALORE INITIATIVE FOR RELIGIOUS DIALOGUE (BIRD) & THE CAREY
SOCIETY
(United Theological College) have jointly arranged a talk by Mr.
Ashok
Chowgule, President, Maharashtra unit of the VHP, on "The Hindu view
on Religious Conversions", followed by an interactive session, at
5.30
p.m., Thursday, 5 August 2005, at the United Theological College, 63
Millers Road.

Campaign to Stop Funding Hate - [Cached Version]

Published on: 3/8/2004 Last Visited: 11/7/2009

But VHP's Ashok Chowgule said in an interview: "We deny all the
allegations.

Campaign to Stop Funding Hate - [Cached Version]

Published on: 2/26/2004 Last Visited: 11/7/2009

But Ashok Chowgule, a senior member of the VHP (World Council of
Hindu
Churches), a prominent affiliate of the RSS, said: "We deny all of
the
allegations.

Campaign to Stop Funding Hate - [Cached Version]

Published on: 4/12/2006 Last Visited: 2/7/2010

Ashok Chowgule, the suave spokesman for Hindutva gave us a hint of
the
post script even as IDRF kept insisting carefully that it has no
connections with the RSS.

Ultimately, did Ashok Chowgule, Vinod prakash, Narayanan Komerath,
Ramesh Rao Yvette Rosser and Belu Mehra and lesser planets,
asteroirds
and others who pulled their weight behind the 200 page report support
the emergence of an ugly world ? Legally no.

ChaloMumbai.Com - The Complete Digital Guide to the... - [Cached
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Published on: 3/3/2002 Last Visited: 3/3/2002

For a man who almost brought Mumbai to a halt on March 1, Ashok
Chowgule, president of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), Mahrashtra is
a picture of peace.Seated in his high-rise apartment at Peddar Road,
which is painted white and has huge paintings adorning the walls,
Chowgule said that the Ayodhya mission is not the culmination of
failed talks with the Muslims but with so-called secularists.

At what point did the dialogue with the Muslim leadership fail?Why
such haste in the plans?It is not failed talks with Muslims that has
created this situation but the failure of talks with those who call
themselves secularists that has made us more steadfast in our aim.And
we had explained our plans in great details earlier.After the 100-day
maha yajna ends on March 15, we will claim what is ours at Ayodhya.

ChaloMumbai.Com - The Complete Digital Guide to the... - [Cached
Version]

Published on: 3/14/2002 Last Visited: 3/14/2002

Ashok Chowgule, the state unit president of the organisation is out
of
India, according to the organisation's activists.

VHP are expected to offer what they call 'nam smaran' pujas in
temples
like the Sanyas Ashram, Khar.The pujas involve chanting of Lord
Rama's
name.

Chowgule Steamship taps into coastal trade | Conoship... - [Cached
Version]

Published on: 12/29/2008 Last Visited: 1/8/2010

Yard boss Ashok Chowgule says Indian coastal shipping is still
undeveloped and presents revenue-earning opportunities.

Ashok Chowgule: in shipbuilding for the long haul.

Ashok Chowgule

The industrial and shipping group was started by Chowgule & Co
executive director Ashok Chowgule's grandfather with a small
manufacturing business. ...

Involved in the business are the Chowgule brothers, Ashok and group
chief executive Vijay, and their first cousins. Ashok and Vijay's
father is now 91 years old but is described as being "still not
exactly retired".

Ashok says India's manufacturing strength is not appreciated given
its
educated workforce, industrial knowledge and strong, commercial and
legal infrastructure, 'which, he claims, makes it relatively easy to
operate in the country.


Things happen slowly in India but those who get into shipbuilding,
given the environmental-impact hoops they have to go through, are
serious players and will be there for the long term, says Ashok
Chowgule.

Companies & Industry - [Cached Version]

Published on: 10/1/2005 Last Visited: 10/31/2005

All vessels are of 4450 DWT capacity which will be delivered in next
three years," Chowgule and Company Ltd Executive Director Ashok V
Chowgule said.

With this new orders, Chowgule's shipbuilding division is marking
change in its profile by building cargo ships, he said.At present,
the
company is focussing on iron ore barges, passenger vessels, deep sea
refrigerated fishing trawlers, grab and cutter suction dredgers,
tugs,
twin hull catamarans and floating restaurants.

"The shipyard will not be accepting any fresh orders as the capacity
is full.It is planning to upgrade its capacity to construct 8 vessels
against existing capacity of three years per year," he said.

Chowgule said the company would invest Rs 40 crore to upgrade the
existing facilities by inducting advanced machines.

"It has already invested Rs 10 crore and has installed CNC Plasma
cutting machine which can cut steel plates of 12 metres," he said.

The shipyard, located at Loutulim (Goa), has a good water front, two
construction bays, full fledged workshop, outfitting jetty and
sufficient skid for pre-fabrication facility.

Commenting on the possibilities of acquiring minor shipbuilding
facilities, Chowgule said that the company is now more focussing on
organic growth and would concentrate on ensuring quality of
construction and punctuality in deliveries.

Cybernoon.com - [Cached Version]

Published on: 4/6/2004 Last Visited: 4/7/2004

I discovered that the person was Mr. Ashok Chowgule, the President of
the VHP in Maharashtra and Goa.He obviously felt that I needed to
know
more about the plight of the Hindu pandits in Kashmir who had been
mercilessly driven out of their homeland to languish in camps across
Jammu and Delhi.

I am grateful to Mr. Ashok Chowgule for sending me the book first and
then the film narrating the tales of terror and horror amongst the
survivors who are living in makeshift tents for the last twelve years
with nowhere to go in their own country and no one to listen to their
tales of horror and anguish.

Differences between people and the need to value the... - [Cached
Version]

Published on: 5/1/1999 Last Visited: 1/15/2005

Says Ashok Chowgule, spokesperson of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad,
Mumbai, "Conversion is an attack on the Hindu ethos."Ask Immanuel
Kingsley of the Pentecostal group, House of Prayer, and he will tell
you with terrifying certainty, "We are not intolerant but we love
people and want to take them to Jesus so they will not perish in
hell."

Fundamentalist political parties such as the Shiv Sena are
challenging
all forms of freedom of expression.

Divyabhoomi - an encyclopaedia of Indian Culture - [Cached Version]

Published on: 3/6/2003 Last Visited: 3/6/2003

Ashok V Chowgule Ashok Chowgule is an industrialist and the Executive
Director of Chowgule and Company Limited.With degrees in engineering
and business management from England and the United States of
America,
he has been Managing Director, Narmada Cement, the country's first
large private sector cement plant, until recently a Chowgule group
company.He has been instrumental in achieving a sustained growth for
the group over the past few decades.A keen student of Indian culture,
he is the president of the Maharashtra and Goa Pranth of the Vishva
Hindu Parishad.

Nanik Rupani The Chairman of Priyadarshni Academy, Nanik Rupani is a
self-made, first-generation entrepreneur with interests in industries
as diverse as telecommunications, information technology, electronics
and finance.A humanist and a patron of Indian art and culture, he has
been instrumental in promoting and encouraging several deserving
organisations, programmes and individuals aimed at bettering the
human
condition as well as art and culture.The Academy recognises persons
who have contributed exceptionally to society and presents awards
every year.He is a director on the board of many leading institutions
and companies and a philanthropist.

Jayraj Salgaokar Publisher and Managing Director of Sumangal
Publishing that brings out India's largest selling publication,
Kalnirnay, Jayraj Salgaokar has played a key role in making his brand
a household name not just in India but in Indian homes across the
world.Kalnirnay today is as successful a product as it is an
advertising vehicle.He reads widely on Indian culture and is a
connoisseur of performing art and Marathi literature.He writes and
lectures on mass communication, printing technology and management at
institutions and universities.

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Freeindiamedia.com, Express your impartial, radical,... - [Cached
Version]

Published on: 9/29/2003 Last Visited: 5/28/2006

In the words of the President of Maharashtra VHP, Ashok Chowgule,
"The
Ram Janmabhoomi issue has revolutionised the politics of the country.

GOANEWS - BY SANDESH PRABHUDESAI - [Cached Version]

Published on: 10/11/2000 Last Visited: 8/21/2003

"The final decision would be taken at the Dharm Sansad, based on a
concrete proposal which would be discussed at the Goa meeting",
informed Ashok Chowgule, the VHP president for Goa and Maharashtra,
who is also a leading mine owner here.

In fact Goa's all the three leading industrial houses have come
together to organise the meeting at Ramnathi temple with Shivanand
Salgaoncar heading the reception committee while Shrinivas Dempo
heading the organising committee.

As half of the ongoing work of carving of pillars for the Ram temple
at Ayodhya and Rajasthan would be completed by next year, Chowgule
says the process to decide about the construction date should also
begin.

"It cannot be at any other place than where the Babri masjid was
situated", he asserts, adding that seeking permission of the central
government to begin the construction work would also be one of the
main issues to be discussed at the Ramnathi meeting.

Stating that the VHP has its own agenda than the Bharatiya Janata
Party, Chowgule also informed that the Bajrang Dal and Durga Vahini
would not be involved in the meeting officially but only its
activists.
...
Equally topping the agenda of the meeting is the issue of religious
conversions allegedly carried out by the Roman Catholic Church and
alleged terrorist activities at the behest of the Baptist churches in
the North Eastern region, informs Chowgule.

The meeting, he said, would also discuss the threat caused to
Haridwar
and Ganga due to the Tehri dam and a grand ceremony to be organised
next year on the occasion of completion of 50 years of the Somnath
temple.

Objecting strongly to the statement made by Pope John Paul II that
mankind can get salvation only through Jesus Christ, Chowgule also
demanded a reaction from the Indian church whether they have a
different viewpoint on it.

Justifying the demand made by the RSS for a swadeshi church, he also
reiterated the VHP stand that Hinduism is the real nationalism in
India and those who believe in Hindu civilisation can only be called
the nationalists."I am not saying that Indian Christians are anti-
nationals", he added.

Expressing fear over Pope's call to dedicate the new millennium to
convert whole Asia into Christianity, he said the margadarshak mandal
would deliberate upon how to counter the threat of religious
conversions and save Hinduism in the Asian region.

Goan Voice UK: Newsletter. Issue 2006-46. Nov. 16, 2006 - [Cached
Version]

Published on: 11/16/2006 Last Visited: 2/7/2010

Goa's Chowgule Group is mulling an entry into building ships for
overseas markets, Ashok Chowgule, the group's shipyard-division
executive director revealed during a visit this week to London. They
are currently building ships at their Loutolim and Rassaim yards in
the state of Goa

ITI-GOA-photogallery - [Cached Version]

Published on: 2/11/2006 Last Visited: 11/6/2009

Chowgule seen 'inking' the M.O.A.

State Director & Shri. Ashok Chowgule, Exec. Dir., M/s. Chowgule
Shipyard Pvt. Ltd., Vasco exchanging the M.O.A. documents State
Director giving a listening ear to our Hon'Minister, Shri.

Iraq\'s maritime industry expects boost with Gulf... - [Cached
Version]

Published on: 11/6/2004 Last Visited: 4/10/2006

Ashok Chowgule, chairman and managing director of Chowgule and Co. in
India, as a Gulf Maritime participant, agreed.

?We specialize in building barges and other carriers for many years
in
India.Gulf Maritime, we are confident, will give us the opportunity
to
tap the increased demand for the same in this region,?Chowgule said.

MiddleEastEvents.com - The rebuilding of Iraq to fuel... - [Cached
Version]

Published on: 9/11/2003 Last Visited: 9/5/2006

Mr. Ashok Chowgule, Chairman and Managing Director of Chowgule and
Co.
from India, a participant at Gulf Maritime readily confirms this
trend.

Navhind Times on the Web: Openspace - [Cached Version]
Published on: 8/30/2003 Last Visited: 9/4/2003
The President of Vishwa Hindu Parishad (Goa and Maharashtra) Ashok
Chowgule asks in an interview with Umesh Mahambre why no Christian
organisations are protesting when the churches in UK and US disallow
yoga classes inside their premisesThe VHP welcomed the Tamil Nadu
legislation banning religious conversions, saying it should be
adopted
by all states.Isn't it an anti-constitutional demand?

‘RSS-VHP Serve Their Political Agenda'

The activities of Graham Staines - Christian Aggression - [Cached
Version]

Published on: 10/30/2003 Last Visited: 4/1/2008

Ashok Chowgule

Deceased Graham Stewart Staines (hereinafter referred to as
'Staines')
as an Australian National whose tryst with Mayurbhanj in Orissa began
in the year 1965 when he made rendezvous with its District
Headquarter
at Baripada for treatment and eradication of Leprosy amongst the poor
and did an excellent job in the field.He became the honorary
Secretary
of Baripada Leprosy Home.He was also the Secretary of the Evangelical
Missionary Society of Mayurbhanj (EMSM).As a missionary, he was
preaching Gospel and spreading the tenets of Christianity in jungle
camps held in different tribal belts in the district of Mayurbhanj
and
Keonjhar.

The zealots who would inherit - [Cached Version]

Published on: 2/16/1999 Last Visited: 5/1/2002

From: Ashok ChowgulePresident,

Vishva Hindu Parishad - [Cached Version]

Published on: 2/5/2002 Last Visited: 6/29/2006

SECULARIST ANGST - ASHOK CHOWGULEVishva Hindu Parishad

51-53 of 53 online sources for Ashok Chowgule
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Published on: 1/12/2001 Last Visited: 7/2/2006

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‘I want what is mine’ - [Cached Version]

Published on: 7/27/2001 Last Visited: 4/14/2002

‘I want what is mine' Ashok Chowgule, explains the logic behind the
VHP's agenda

For a man who almost brought Mumbai to a halt on March 1, Ashok
Chowgule, Maharashtra president of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP),
is
a picture of peace.Seated in his high-rise apartment at Peddar Road,
which is painted white and has huge paintings adorning the walls,
Chowgule said that the Ayodhya mission is not the culmination of
failed talks with the Muslims but with so-called secularists.

At what point did the dialogue with the Muslim leadership fail?Why
such haste in the plans?

It is not failed talks with Muslims that has created this situation
but the failure of talks with those who call themselves secularists
that has made us more steadfast in our aim.And we had explained our
plans in great detail earlier.After the 100-day maha yagna ends on
March 15, we will claim what is ours at Ayodhya.

‘I’m happy organisers had sense’ - [Cached Version]

Published on: 2/19/2007 Last Visited: 2/19/2007

When contacted, VHP president Ashok Chougule said, "I am happy the
organisers had some sense in them."

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