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Christians Destroyed Hindu Temples in Bharat
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2013-09-04 21:09:30 UTC
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Christians Destroyed Hindu Temples in Bharat

In article <6trmqu$***@winter.news.erols.com>,
***@hotmail.com wrote:
[
[ In the Name of Religion what Christian Missionaries
[ did in Goa.
[
[ Paul Williams Robert says in his book "Empire of the Soul":
[
[ The Spread of Christianity in Goa:
[
[ "In the wake of the warriors came the priests.
[
[ First, the Franciscans, then the Jesuits, then the Dominicans, and
[ lastly the Augustinians. It must have made their holy blood boil to
[ find their old foes, the Muslims and Jews openly and brazenly
[ practicing their religions.
[
[ The men of God set about clearing what the Dominican termed
[ this "jungle of unbelief" with the ardor of Amazon lumber barons.
[
[ Just like the mullahs who had marched into Goa two hundred years
[ before with the Bahamani sultans, these Catholic clergy were prepared
[ to go to any lenghts to spread their faiths. Initially they pestered
[ the Portugese king for special powers, then they pestered the Pope to
[ pester the king on their behalf.
[
[ The first of these special powers arrived in 1540 when the viceroy
[ received authority to "destroy all Hindu temples, not leaving a single
[ one in any islands, and to confiscate the estates of these temples for
[ the maintenance of the churches which are to be erected in their
[ places. Five years later, the Italian cleric Father Nicolau Lancilotto
[ reported that "not a single temple to be seen on the island."
[
[ The island in question was Teeswadi, the main field of operations for
[ the two priestly orders then on the scene. A glance at the absurd
[ profusion of churches standing cheek by jowl in Old Goa still conveys
[ some idea of the spiritiual excesses indulged in by these competing
[ orders of the day.
[
[ This Olympiad of Christianization scared the hell out of the locals, and
[ thousands of family fled across the river. To them, the harshness of the
[ Moghuls still governing the adjacent territories must have been preferable
[ to the rabid monomania of papist clerics.
[
[ A saying still exist in Konkani, the language of Goa:
[
[ "Hanv polthandi vaitam" (I'm leaving for the other bank), one half
[ of its double meaning implying to this day that a person is rejecting
[ Christianity.
[
[ Although their temples had been razed.
[
[ The Hindus who remained continued to practice their religion in secret.
[ More extreme methods were therefore instituted to bring the heathen into
[ the church's loving embrace. Hindu festivities were forbidden; Hindu
[ priests were forbidden from entering Goa; makers of idols were severely
[ punished; public jobs were given only to Christians.
[
[ Soon it was announced that anyone practicising in private was declared a
[ crime. The penalty was confiscation of property. Also Hindus, dying
[ without a male heir could pass thier estates only to relative who had
[ embraced Christianity.
[
[ Death was no easier than life for Hindus in mid-sixteenth-century Goa.
[ To them, the cruelest piece of legislation passed by the Portugese
[ prohibited cremation of the dead - an inviolably sacred part of Hindu
[ faith. As a result, death had to be kept a secret; the wailing grief of
[ the women had to be smothered; family members had to go about their
[ business as if nothing had happened; children were sent out to play,
[ washing was done, work was performed - all as usual.
[
[ In the dead of the night, a boat would be loaded with firewood down
[ on the riverbank, then the dead body would be placed on it, covered by
[ more wood.
[
[ The pyre would be set alight and the boat pushed out to drift on the
[ river's currents as the funeral party ran back into the safety of
[ shadows.
[
[ The missionaries simply could not grasp that another people's faith
[ could be as dearly cherished as deeply embedded as their own.
[
[ The missionaries obviously had no idea how resilient Hinduism could
[ be, and indeed is. It had survived Islam's scimtar, and it would
[ survive the sword that so much resembled the cross in whose service
[ it was now employed.
[
[ Total of 200 temples had been demolished.
[
[ * * *
[
[ Says Andre Corsalli to Giuliano de Medici Jan 6, 1516
[
[ "In a small island near this, called Divari, the Portuguese,
[ in order to build the city, have destroyed an ancient temple ...
[ which was built with marvelous art and with ancient figures wrought
[ to the greatest perfection, in a certain black stone, some of which
[ remain standing, ruined and shattered , because these Portuguese care
[ nothing about them. If I can come by one of these shattered images,
[ I will send it to your Lordship, that you may perceive how much in
[ old times sculpture was esteemed in every part of the world."
[
[ Source: Empire of the Soul
[ By Paul William Roberts
[ Riverhead Books.
[ 1994.
[ pages 80-84

Well, it does say in the Christian Bible:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came
not so send peace, but a sword.

"For I am come to set a man at variance against his
father, and the daughter against her mother, and the
daughter in law against her mother in law.

"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

- Matthew 10:34-36.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj
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2013-09-04 22:27:07 UTC
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What jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. neglects each time he posts on this topic
is one simple fact.

Those s. asian christians who were there when the europeans came met the
exact same fate as all other s. asia groups.

Now that puts history in quite a different light doesn't it?
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2013-09-04 23:04:40 UTC
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Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

Christians Destroyed Hindu Temples in Bharat

In article <6trmqu$***@winter.news.erols.com>,
***@hotmail.com wrote:
[
[ In the Name of Religion what Christian Missionaries
[ did in Goa.
[
[ Paul Williams Robert says in his book "Empire of the Soul":
[
[ The Spread of Christianity in Goa:
[
[ "In the wake of the warriors came the priests.
[
[ First, the Franciscans, then the Jesuits, then the Dominicans, and
[ lastly the Augustinians. It must have made their holy blood boil to
[ find their old foes, the Muslims and Jews openly and brazenly
[ practicing their religions.
[
[ The men of God set about clearing what the Dominican termed
[ this "jungle of unbelief" with the ardor of Amazon lumber barons.
[
[ Just like the mullahs who had marched into Goa two hundred years
[ before with the Bahamani sultans, these Catholic clergy were prepared
[ to go to any lenghts to spread their faiths. Initially they pestered
[ the Portugese king for special powers, then they pestered the Pope to
[ pester the king on their behalf.
[
[ The first of these special powers arrived in 1540 when the viceroy
[ received authority to "destroy all Hindu temples, not leaving a single
[ one in any islands, and to confiscate the estates of these temples for
[ the maintenance of the churches which are to be erected in their
[ places. Five years later, the Italian cleric Father Nicolau Lancilotto
[ reported that "not a single temple to be seen on the island."
[
[ The island in question was Teeswadi, the main field of operations for
[ the two priestly orders then on the scene. A glance at the absurd
[ profusion of churches standing cheek by jowl in Old Goa still conveys
[ some idea of the spiritiual excesses indulged in by these competing
[ orders of the day.
[
[ This Olympiad of Christianization scared the hell out of the locals, and
[ thousands of family fled across the river. To them, the harshness of the
[ Moghuls still governing the adjacent territories must have been preferable
[ to the rabid monomania of papist clerics.
[
[ A saying still exist in Konkani, the language of Goa:
[
[ "Hanv polthandi vaitam" (I'm leaving for the other bank), one half
[ of its double meaning implying to this day that a person is rejecting
[ Christianity.
[
[ Although their temples had been razed.
[
[ The Hindus who remained continued to practice their religion in secret.
[ More extreme methods were therefore instituted to bring the heathen into
[ the church's loving embrace. Hindu festivities were forbidden; Hindu
[ priests were forbidden from entering Goa; makers of idols were severely
[ punished; public jobs were given only to Christians.
[
[ Soon it was announced that anyone practicising in private was declared a
[ crime. The penalty was confiscation of property. Also Hindus, dying
[ without a male heir could pass thier estates only to relative who had
[ embraced Christianity.
[
[ Death was no easier than life for Hindus in mid-sixteenth-century Goa.
[ To them, the cruelest piece of legislation passed by the Portugese
[ prohibited cremation of the dead - an inviolably sacred part of Hindu
[ faith. As a result, death had to be kept a secret; the wailing grief of
[ the women had to be smothered; family members had to go about their
[ business as if nothing had happened; children were sent out to play,
[ washing was done, work was performed - all as usual.
[
[ In the dead of the night, a boat would be loaded with firewood down
[ on the riverbank, then the dead body would be placed on it, covered by
[ more wood.
[
[ The pyre would be set alight and the boat pushed out to drift on the
[ river's currents as the funeral party ran back into the safety of
[ shadows.
[
[ The missionaries simply could not grasp that another people's faith
[ could be as dearly cherished as deeply embedded as their own.
[
[ The missionaries obviously had no idea how resilient Hinduism could
[ be, and indeed is. It had survived Islam's scimtar, and it would
[ survive the sword that so much resembled the cross in whose service
[ it was now employed.
[
[ Total of 200 temples had been demolished.
[
[ * * *
[
[ Says Andre Corsalli to Giuliano de Medici Jan 6, 1516
[
[ "In a small island near this, called Divari, the Portuguese,
[ in order to build the city, have destroyed an ancient temple ...
[ which was built with marvelous art and with ancient figures wrought
[ to the greatest perfection, in a certain black stone, some of which
[ remain standing, ruined and shattered , because these Portuguese care
[ nothing about them. If I can come by one of these shattered images,
[ I will send it to your Lordship, that you may perceive how much in
[ old times sculpture was esteemed in every part of the world."
[
[ Source: Empire of the Soul
[ By Paul William Roberts
[ Riverhead Books.
[ 1994.
[ pages 80-84

[ Well, it does say in the Christian Bible:
[
[ "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came
[ not so send peace, but a sword.
[
[ "For I am come to set a man at variance against his
[ father, and the daughter against her mother, and the
[ daughter in law against her mother in law.
[
[ "And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
[
[ - Matthew 10:34-36.

And,

The Christian Edict to Exterminate Non-Christians

"Unbelievers deserve not only to be separated from the
Church, but also...  to be exterminated from the World by
death." - Thomas Aquinas (Summa Theologica, 1271).
Christian civilization, by virtue of its exclusivist
heresy and monotheism, became the self-justifying
destroyer of all non-Christian culture.

http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/

"[Saint Thomas] Aquinas is held in the Catholic Church to
be the model teacher for those studying for the
priesthood. The works for which he is best-known are the
Summa Theologica and the Summa Contra Gentiles. One of
the 33 Doctors of the Church, he is considered the
Church's greatest theologian and philosopher. Pope
Benedict XV declared: 'The Church has declared Thomas'
doctrine to be her own.'"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj

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