dhananjay
2003-09-19 13:25:44 UTC
Ideological conflicts listed, preventing aligning in above cause for
A] Brahmins: Ideology of Hindu politics
b] Dalits: ideology of dalit rule/ united dalits
c] Musalmaan, Christian, others: Islamic/Christian identity assertion
d] Other caste/remaining: State caste politics
A change in perspective is expected for each of above, to feel the
rape on their marathi identity. United, they can preserve / protect
identities, listed against, in a better way than now. Two in one!
Dalits:
Conflicts between dalits and savarn, are inherited by all states but
Maharashtra is among the rankers in social justice. The state of
living of dalit Marathi mass is better than other part of country.
Socially, slowly all over Maharashtra, tradition of social
justice/removal of caste system/social uplifting of suppressed lot, is
accepted /welcomed/ supported by all Marathi minds (larger context
Indian). The political advantage of dalit unity, will be more to
dalits in u.p. and Bihar, than dalit Marathi. By seeing the mass-Rule
in democracy, its good to visualize, a dalit unity, capable of, ruling
Indian politics, but the beautiful ground rule remains the same. This
fact is, "cultures unite than any other identity" in India.
When in mumbai, (during "mee mumbaikar" campaign) shivsena attacked
the u.p. Bihar lots, to be a burdon on city civic administration and
asked them to stop Influxing City. SS chief in u.p. (Without
balasaheb's acknowledgement) openly threatened the Marathi people in
u.p., to leave within 48 hours. Mayawati did not arrest him! If such
threat is made by raj thakre (with time ultimatum), it will be seen as
a riot situation by state police. Congress leadership under Sonia
Gandhi, trained workers, to fight "mee mumbaikar" campaign. Despite
the vocal udhdhav, that its a campaign for civic collapse inside city
due to influx, gurudas kamath was vocal too, to raj thakre,"if the
nonmarathi lot is touched, they will arrest him". I dont hear any u.p.
Congressman challenging the u.p. ss chief for generating the threat to
Marathi people (who may be congress voters!). See the difference in
unity. A mayawati, Dalit leader feels more for u.p. People (includes
savarn) in mumbai than Marathi mass (includes dalit)! She will support
a resolution for 1995 citizenship, which will prevent dalit marathi to
enter mumbai but will protect savarn bhaiyaya already inside city. The
conclusion is, the polarization of power, due to dalit unity, is
exhausted for a cultural unity by mayawati. She has a dream of
national dalit unity to rule India, but works to protect rights of
u.p. mass in Maharashtra. So Marathi dalits must identify the
falseness in national dalit unity (above Marathi cultural unity). With
the dalit mass power, no political objective is unachievable in
Maharashtra.
Brahmans:
Identity of Hindu is politicized to fulfill some business interests. A
Hindu-Muslim conflict in u.p. is causing tensions in Hindu Marathi and
musalmaan Marathi, who shared a glorious Marathi history, unity in
case of shivaji's attempts for swarajya and panipat war. Musalmaan
Marathi did not hesitate to speak for soil interests. They spoke
maarthi and schooled children, in Marathi medium. (even though Urdu
medium was available) The closeness is tarred and not healed, till
date due to, Brahmin Marathi lot feels closeness to gujrathi baniyas
than konkani muslmaan.
The same gujrathi baniya lot, unites with Brahmin Marathi lot, to
create nonveg zones, in city, causing dangers to 100 years old koli
bazaar institution, (business point of Marathi fishermen community) by
pushing them outside city. The gujrathi baniya wont unite with same
Brahmin marathi person, if he feels gujrathi language shall be pushed
out of "mumbai stock market" or the language used in stock exchange
shall be anything other than gujrathi. The same gujrathi (supporting
Hindu politics of bjp) condemns godse and appreciates Sardar Patel; &
shyamji verma but remains silent on Savarkar's achievements, which
contradict Gandhi.
The Sindhi business community (which is "dissolved" in gujrathi
culture), say ambani, speaks gujrathi interests and adopts a village
near bhuj. Why dont they adopt mumbai city ? Am sure if they had to,
they will go for ghatkopar or ulhasnagar instead of dadar or girgaw.
The navaratri utsav "sponsored" by government of gujrath, to
proliferate "gujrathi asmita", has welwishes from reliance industries
and Sahara pariwar on its advertisements. What was the donation
received by "sarvajanik ganeshotsav mandals" from Reliance group of
companies? If in future, there is a "Marathi asmita" proliferation
tour, by MR. Sushilkumar shinde (like Mr. modi's Europe tour) in
Europe and America, will reliance industries take their share of
expenditure, as the company owns largest gas resource at a distance
from mumbai port (ex ongc) and latest oil reserves in godavari? (Which
are our resources FIRST). When Vikrant was asked to be maintained as a
symbol of indo pak 71-war victory, Maharashtra state government had
lack of funds. Where were the reliance industry /Sahara India and all
other honeybees? If there is a fund collection for prince of Wales
museum or stock exchange building, will they remain ignorant? Udhdhav
thakre took his share to preserve Asiatic library building, will he be
helped by these giants, living on our infrastructure?
Musalmaan and Christian lots: Once upon a time, in schools, class
mates were muslmaan marathi with surnames like dalvi, deshpande and
khan. They spoke marathi culture. They were teased obviously if had
names like afzal, On larger context, we have remained united
throughout history when being marathi was their identity. Missionaries
came and made the christian identity assertive. The missionary
schooling is the main competition to state schooling. Despite of large
donations and fees compared to marathi schooling, no Christian marathi
united with sudhir Joshi (ex education minister) to save marathi
schooling by joshi's excellent action plan. I remember, all leaders of
anti joshi were marathi and nonmarathi christians. So christian
marathi united with the "mission" than soil. They should ask pope,
whats the mission? if the mission is to spread christs message, its
good. But is it worth against the marathi schooling? will pope donate
to preserve marathi culture the way he donates to spread the divine
message all over the globe? why do we need to discard marathi to
understand the message of Christ? Why not all missionary schools are
marathi medium schools? How many municipal schools, who cry for
donations, get it freely from the mission? Christians who speak
marathi/ had Marathi schooling must be feeling the concern for the
language same as me. If they reach the pope and ask to donate a mere 1
crore money to run 10 schools in mumbai, upto 5th grade to preserve
the soil language, will the pope be generous enough? (Without asking
for baptisma of those children and their parents)? No. My dear
Christian Marathi brother. They aim at your disconnection from soil.
Muslmaan Marathi, I feel are victims and need healing as they have
shown closeness to soil culture more. They have fought with us
against external 'islamists'. Still the political Hindu ideology is
asking division between us. This isnt fair for them and not for
'security' of state. Once the Islamic identity is asserted, a dawood
kaaskar, feels for Muslims more than Marathi crowd. On larger context
(concerning proxy war by Pakistan) Indian cultural unity, is
challanged today, by asserting Islamic identity of muslmaan above
their cultural identity. The Hindu political stands must act in
counterway and solidify the cultural identity against the islamic.
Pakistan had been tarred off due to our stand [cultural unity] and now
it wants Indian society to break due to its own stands [two-nation
theory]. Its job of society to preserve, which already was existing, a
cultural unity. for this aim, Marathi culture must unite first
internally. See tamilnad in this case. I have seen muslmaan Tamil who
talks Tamil with pride in its ancient base and do not know Hindi/urdu.
Can Pakistan create minipakistan inside tamilnaad? I bet it should try
to feel the power of Tamil cultural unity.
If Marathi muslmaan remained to Marathi identity, a non-Marathi
muslmaan (Bangladeshi, paki) can be separated from them and tough
measures can be taken. So i advocate its our (Hindu Marathi) duty to
heal the wounds on the musalmaan Marathi mass and protect the Marathi
schooling institution. [Social aim shall be to achieve 100% Marathi
State by 100% Marathi schooling]
Other caste and remaining: The so-called middle class, upper lower
class and self employed groups. The Marathi identity of these groups
is suppressed by state politics (caste based). The separatist
attitudes are dangerous and must not be encouraged by state political
machine. Here all parties, except sena, are responsible for the divide
(Marathi mass) and rule politics. Sena's support to national Hindu
politics makes them an element of resistance to achieve 100% Marathi
unity inclusive of muslmaan and Christians. Even though sena stands
against anti national elements, it has to choose for a 100% Marathi
State inclusive of all listed above. This aim (100% Marathi State)
assures directly separations of anti national elements from soil of
Maharashtra. Sena is unnecessary sharing headache of other state
conflicts. The political unity of Hindus, dalits, Brahmans, Muslims is
a myth in India, till Indian way of living exists. The Hindu unity is
possible if all Indian cultures dissolve the non-Hindu elements in
them (like tamilnaad) and remain united for national values. Its sad
to note the physical distance of tamilnaad from the partition-affected
area of India. On over all, healing/restoration of cultural identity
is a must for Indian politics to remain united. Marathi identity
struggle aims the same on larger context and supports movements like
this in other states of India.
Thank you for reading this long post,
love to you all.
Jai maharashtra.
dhananjay
A] Brahmins: Ideology of Hindu politics
b] Dalits: ideology of dalit rule/ united dalits
c] Musalmaan, Christian, others: Islamic/Christian identity assertion
d] Other caste/remaining: State caste politics
A change in perspective is expected for each of above, to feel the
rape on their marathi identity. United, they can preserve / protect
identities, listed against, in a better way than now. Two in one!
Dalits:
Conflicts between dalits and savarn, are inherited by all states but
Maharashtra is among the rankers in social justice. The state of
living of dalit Marathi mass is better than other part of country.
Socially, slowly all over Maharashtra, tradition of social
justice/removal of caste system/social uplifting of suppressed lot, is
accepted /welcomed/ supported by all Marathi minds (larger context
Indian). The political advantage of dalit unity, will be more to
dalits in u.p. and Bihar, than dalit Marathi. By seeing the mass-Rule
in democracy, its good to visualize, a dalit unity, capable of, ruling
Indian politics, but the beautiful ground rule remains the same. This
fact is, "cultures unite than any other identity" in India.
When in mumbai, (during "mee mumbaikar" campaign) shivsena attacked
the u.p. Bihar lots, to be a burdon on city civic administration and
asked them to stop Influxing City. SS chief in u.p. (Without
balasaheb's acknowledgement) openly threatened the Marathi people in
u.p., to leave within 48 hours. Mayawati did not arrest him! If such
threat is made by raj thakre (with time ultimatum), it will be seen as
a riot situation by state police. Congress leadership under Sonia
Gandhi, trained workers, to fight "mee mumbaikar" campaign. Despite
the vocal udhdhav, that its a campaign for civic collapse inside city
due to influx, gurudas kamath was vocal too, to raj thakre,"if the
nonmarathi lot is touched, they will arrest him". I dont hear any u.p.
Congressman challenging the u.p. ss chief for generating the threat to
Marathi people (who may be congress voters!). See the difference in
unity. A mayawati, Dalit leader feels more for u.p. People (includes
savarn) in mumbai than Marathi mass (includes dalit)! She will support
a resolution for 1995 citizenship, which will prevent dalit marathi to
enter mumbai but will protect savarn bhaiyaya already inside city. The
conclusion is, the polarization of power, due to dalit unity, is
exhausted for a cultural unity by mayawati. She has a dream of
national dalit unity to rule India, but works to protect rights of
u.p. mass in Maharashtra. So Marathi dalits must identify the
falseness in national dalit unity (above Marathi cultural unity). With
the dalit mass power, no political objective is unachievable in
Maharashtra.
Brahmans:
Identity of Hindu is politicized to fulfill some business interests. A
Hindu-Muslim conflict in u.p. is causing tensions in Hindu Marathi and
musalmaan Marathi, who shared a glorious Marathi history, unity in
case of shivaji's attempts for swarajya and panipat war. Musalmaan
Marathi did not hesitate to speak for soil interests. They spoke
maarthi and schooled children, in Marathi medium. (even though Urdu
medium was available) The closeness is tarred and not healed, till
date due to, Brahmin Marathi lot feels closeness to gujrathi baniyas
than konkani muslmaan.
The same gujrathi baniya lot, unites with Brahmin Marathi lot, to
create nonveg zones, in city, causing dangers to 100 years old koli
bazaar institution, (business point of Marathi fishermen community) by
pushing them outside city. The gujrathi baniya wont unite with same
Brahmin marathi person, if he feels gujrathi language shall be pushed
out of "mumbai stock market" or the language used in stock exchange
shall be anything other than gujrathi. The same gujrathi (supporting
Hindu politics of bjp) condemns godse and appreciates Sardar Patel; &
shyamji verma but remains silent on Savarkar's achievements, which
contradict Gandhi.
The Sindhi business community (which is "dissolved" in gujrathi
culture), say ambani, speaks gujrathi interests and adopts a village
near bhuj. Why dont they adopt mumbai city ? Am sure if they had to,
they will go for ghatkopar or ulhasnagar instead of dadar or girgaw.
The navaratri utsav "sponsored" by government of gujrath, to
proliferate "gujrathi asmita", has welwishes from reliance industries
and Sahara pariwar on its advertisements. What was the donation
received by "sarvajanik ganeshotsav mandals" from Reliance group of
companies? If in future, there is a "Marathi asmita" proliferation
tour, by MR. Sushilkumar shinde (like Mr. modi's Europe tour) in
Europe and America, will reliance industries take their share of
expenditure, as the company owns largest gas resource at a distance
from mumbai port (ex ongc) and latest oil reserves in godavari? (Which
are our resources FIRST). When Vikrant was asked to be maintained as a
symbol of indo pak 71-war victory, Maharashtra state government had
lack of funds. Where were the reliance industry /Sahara India and all
other honeybees? If there is a fund collection for prince of Wales
museum or stock exchange building, will they remain ignorant? Udhdhav
thakre took his share to preserve Asiatic library building, will he be
helped by these giants, living on our infrastructure?
Musalmaan and Christian lots: Once upon a time, in schools, class
mates were muslmaan marathi with surnames like dalvi, deshpande and
khan. They spoke marathi culture. They were teased obviously if had
names like afzal, On larger context, we have remained united
throughout history when being marathi was their identity. Missionaries
came and made the christian identity assertive. The missionary
schooling is the main competition to state schooling. Despite of large
donations and fees compared to marathi schooling, no Christian marathi
united with sudhir Joshi (ex education minister) to save marathi
schooling by joshi's excellent action plan. I remember, all leaders of
anti joshi were marathi and nonmarathi christians. So christian
marathi united with the "mission" than soil. They should ask pope,
whats the mission? if the mission is to spread christs message, its
good. But is it worth against the marathi schooling? will pope donate
to preserve marathi culture the way he donates to spread the divine
message all over the globe? why do we need to discard marathi to
understand the message of Christ? Why not all missionary schools are
marathi medium schools? How many municipal schools, who cry for
donations, get it freely from the mission? Christians who speak
marathi/ had Marathi schooling must be feeling the concern for the
language same as me. If they reach the pope and ask to donate a mere 1
crore money to run 10 schools in mumbai, upto 5th grade to preserve
the soil language, will the pope be generous enough? (Without asking
for baptisma of those children and their parents)? No. My dear
Christian Marathi brother. They aim at your disconnection from soil.
Muslmaan Marathi, I feel are victims and need healing as they have
shown closeness to soil culture more. They have fought with us
against external 'islamists'. Still the political Hindu ideology is
asking division between us. This isnt fair for them and not for
'security' of state. Once the Islamic identity is asserted, a dawood
kaaskar, feels for Muslims more than Marathi crowd. On larger context
(concerning proxy war by Pakistan) Indian cultural unity, is
challanged today, by asserting Islamic identity of muslmaan above
their cultural identity. The Hindu political stands must act in
counterway and solidify the cultural identity against the islamic.
Pakistan had been tarred off due to our stand [cultural unity] and now
it wants Indian society to break due to its own stands [two-nation
theory]. Its job of society to preserve, which already was existing, a
cultural unity. for this aim, Marathi culture must unite first
internally. See tamilnad in this case. I have seen muslmaan Tamil who
talks Tamil with pride in its ancient base and do not know Hindi/urdu.
Can Pakistan create minipakistan inside tamilnaad? I bet it should try
to feel the power of Tamil cultural unity.
If Marathi muslmaan remained to Marathi identity, a non-Marathi
muslmaan (Bangladeshi, paki) can be separated from them and tough
measures can be taken. So i advocate its our (Hindu Marathi) duty to
heal the wounds on the musalmaan Marathi mass and protect the Marathi
schooling institution. [Social aim shall be to achieve 100% Marathi
State by 100% Marathi schooling]
Other caste and remaining: The so-called middle class, upper lower
class and self employed groups. The Marathi identity of these groups
is suppressed by state politics (caste based). The separatist
attitudes are dangerous and must not be encouraged by state political
machine. Here all parties, except sena, are responsible for the divide
(Marathi mass) and rule politics. Sena's support to national Hindu
politics makes them an element of resistance to achieve 100% Marathi
unity inclusive of muslmaan and Christians. Even though sena stands
against anti national elements, it has to choose for a 100% Marathi
State inclusive of all listed above. This aim (100% Marathi State)
assures directly separations of anti national elements from soil of
Maharashtra. Sena is unnecessary sharing headache of other state
conflicts. The political unity of Hindus, dalits, Brahmans, Muslims is
a myth in India, till Indian way of living exists. The Hindu unity is
possible if all Indian cultures dissolve the non-Hindu elements in
them (like tamilnaad) and remain united for national values. Its sad
to note the physical distance of tamilnaad from the partition-affected
area of India. On over all, healing/restoration of cultural identity
is a must for Indian politics to remain united. Marathi identity
struggle aims the same on larger context and supports movements like
this in other states of India.
Thank you for reading this long post,
love to you all.
Jai maharashtra.
dhananjay