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I could not contact police chief for 15 minutes - Maharashtra CM [Muslim Terrorism in Mumbai]
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I could not contact police chief for 15 minutes: Maharashtra CM

IANS
The Times of India
July 15, 2011, 3.45 pm IST

Mumbai - Maharashtra chief minister Prithviraj Chavan said on Friday
that he could not reach top police officers for about 15 minutes
after Wednesday's triple bombings due to a "shocking and
unacceptable" communication breakdown.

In interviews to national TV networks, Chavan said mobile
communication had completely collapsed within minutes of the terror
strikes on Wednesday evening.

"There was complete communication breakdown in first 15 minutes. It
was shocking and unacceptable, it unnerved me. Mobile network was
jammed," said Chavan in a TV interview.

In another interview, the chief minister said: "I could not contact
chief of police, DGP for 15 minutes."

He said that it was a "very serious" issue and the lacunae needed to
be plugged.

The government, he said, was thinking of getting satellite phones or
dedicated mobile network for such emergency situations.

"We need dedicated apparatus for emergency communication, better
ambulances, better road maps and people too should be educated on
what to do in an emergency situation," he said.

Chavan also spoke about the need to have state-of-the-art equipment
to deal with such situations.

"Procurement of equipment is a problem. I have raised this issue with
the PM ( Manmohan Singh) and home minister (P. Chidambaram). But
technology keeps on changing, you buy something and then it gets
dated. Almost 5,000 CCTVS were meant to be bought for Mumbai, which
did not happen. I will see to it that this will happen and it is
expedited," he said.

He, however, denied that the emergency medical responses in India
were lagging. "Just a few minutes after the information reached
officials, several ambulances from concerned hospitals moved out.
They reached the spot within some time, though it took time to take
the injured as some spots were overcrowded."

There were both private and public hospitals for the help and all of
them responded "marvellously", he added.

Chavan also disclosed that 12 teams have been formed to probe the
terror attack that killed 17 people and injured 131.

The chief minister said the possibility of the involvement of the
underworld and Left-wing extremists in the worst terror attack after
the November 2008 strike was also being looked at.

Asked about the possibility of a suicide bomber in one of the
bombings, Chavan replied: "I'll not dwell greatly into the
investigation but what is clear is that ammonium nitrate was used.

"It was electronically planted and if it is so then it has a circuit
which denies the possibility of a suicide bomber. It is not logical
to have electronic timer and a suicide bomber."

However, he added, that the male body on which an electric circuit
was found and another with severed head might have been too close to
the impact of the explosion.

He said that investigators have been directed to look at even the
most remote possibility.

"Several teams have been created including the (Anti-Terrorism Squad)
ATS, (National Investigation Agency) NIA, (National Security Guard)
NSG and also the crime branch which cracked the Dey murder case," the
chief minister said.

He said forensic investigators had collected all the required
samples, including blood samples and explosives substances.

He further added that the investigators were examining the voluminous
CCTV footages recorded but it wasn't of much help so far because "the
places were overcrowded and it was raining very hard (when the bombs
exploded)".

Without naming the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he said he was
"upset" over the government being criticised for its alleged laxity
in fighting the terror.

"I was very upset that one of the political parties tried to
politicise the issue. They have a right to criticise but there is a
time and a place."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Worried-over-collapse-of-mobile-network-after-blasts-Maharashtra-mulls-satellite-phones/articleshow/9234959.cms

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I could not contact police chief for 15 minutes: Maharashtra CM
IANS
The Times of India
July 15, 2011, 3.45 pm IST
Mumbai - Maharashtra chief minister Prithviraj Chavan said on Friday
that he could not reach top police officers for about 15 minutes
after Wednesday's triple bombings due to a "shocking and
unacceptable" communication breakdown.
In interviews to national TV networks, Chavan said mobile
communication had completely collapsed within minutes of the terror
strikes on Wednesday evening.
"There was complete communication breakdown in first 15 minutes. It
was shocking and unacceptable, it unnerved me. Mobile network was
jammed," said Chavan in a TV interview.
In another interview, the chief minister said: "I could not contact
chief of police, DGP for 15 minutes."
He said that it was a "very serious" issue and the lacunae needed to
be plugged.
The government, he said, was thinking of getting satellite phones or
dedicated mobile network for such emergency situations.
"We need dedicated apparatus for emergency communication, better
ambulances, better road maps and people too should be educated on
what to do in an emergency situation," he said.
Chavan also spoke about the need to have state-of-the-art equipment
to deal with such situations.
"Procurement of equipment is a problem. I have raised this issue with
the PM ( Manmohan Singh) and home minister (P. Chidambaram). But
technology keeps on changing, you buy something and then it gets
dated. Almost 5,000 CCTVS were meant to be bought for Mumbai, which
did not happen. I will see to it that this will happen and it is
expedited," he said.
He, however, denied that the emergency medical responses in India
were lagging. "Just a few minutes after the information reached
officials, several ambulances from concerned hospitals moved out.
They reached the spot within some time, though it took time to take
the injured as some spots were overcrowded."
There were both private and public hospitals for the help and all of
them responded "marvellously", he added.
Chavan also disclosed that 12 teams have been formed to probe the
terror attack that killed 17 people and injured 131.
The chief minister said the possibility of the involvement of the
underworld and Left-wing extremists in the worst terror attack after
the November 2008 strike was also being looked at.
Asked about the possibility of a suicide bomber in one of the
bombings, Chavan replied: "I'll not dwell greatly into the
investigation but what is clear is that ammonium nitrate was used.
"It was electronically planted and if it is so then it has a circuit
which denies the possibility of a suicide bomber. It is not logical
to have electronic timer and a suicide bomber."
However, he added, that the male body on which an electric circuit
was found and another with severed head might have been too close to
the impact of the explosion.
He said that investigators have been directed to look at even the
most remote possibility.
"Several teams have been created including the (Anti-Terrorism Squad)
ATS, (National Investigation Agency) NIA, (National Security Guard)
NSG and also the crime branch which cracked the Dey murder case," the
chief minister said.
He said forensic investigators had collected all the required
samples, including blood samples and explosives substances.
He further added that the investigators were examining the voluminous
CCTV footages recorded but it wasn't of much help so far because "the
places were overcrowded and it was raining very hard (when the bombs
exploded)".
Without naming the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he said he was
"upset" over the government being criticised for its alleged laxity
in fighting the terror.
"I was very upset that one of the political parties tried to
politicise the issue. They have a right to criticise but there is a
time and a place."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Worried-over-collapse-of-mobile-network-after-blasts-Maharashtra-mulls-satellite-phones/articleshow/9234959.cms
Forwarded message from S. K.

Friday, July 15, 2011

perhaps this is the biggest joke of the year that a chife minister of
a state has been unable to contact any of his minister colleagues,
police officials(dgp..) or even a police station for 15 minutes after
thye bomb blast!! he claims the reason was line congestion!!

and this happens with our most modern telecom system in the world
with early wireless system and police runners on motorcycles replaced
by the telecom and internet of spontaneous contcts to any part of the
world.

can you trust a cm claiming his inability to contact any of his
officers for 15 min.? what about 2g and 3g- or these also were
affected by congestion for 15 min. whereas many in neighbouring
states coul get the lines immediately after the bomb blasts.

perhaps the telecom engineers should be asked how this has happened
in the financial/business capital of india. or the cm is lying
outright, wanting to remain unreachable like rr patil to avoid
embarassement?

End of forwarded message from S. K.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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I could not contact police chief for 15 minutes: Maharashtra CM
IANS
The Times of India
July 15, 2011, 3.45 pm IST
Mumbai - Maharashtra chief minister Prithviraj Chavan said on Friday
that he could not reach top police officers for about 15 minutes
after Wednesday's triple bombings due to a "shocking and
unacceptable" communication breakdown.
In interviews to national TV networks, Chavan said mobile
communication had completely collapsed within minutes of the terror
strikes on Wednesday evening.
"There was complete communication breakdown in first 15 minutes. It
was shocking and unacceptable, it unnerved me. Mobile network was
jammed," said Chavan in a TV interview.
In another interview, the chief minister said: "I could not contact
chief of police, DGP for 15 minutes."
He said that it was a "very serious" issue and the lacunae needed to
be plugged.
The government, he said, was thinking of getting satellite phones or
dedicated mobile network for such emergency situations.
"We need dedicated apparatus for emergency communication, better
ambulances, better road maps and people too should be educated on
what to do in an emergency situation," he said.
Chavan also spoke about the need to have state-of-the-art equipment
to deal with such situations.
"Procurement of equipment is a problem. I have raised this issue with
the PM ( Manmohan Singh) and home minister (P. Chidambaram). But
technology keeps on changing, you buy something and then it gets
dated. Almost 5,000 CCTVS were meant to be bought for Mumbai, which
did not happen. I will see to it that this will happen and it is
expedited," he said.
He, however, denied that the emergency medical responses in India
were lagging. "Just a few minutes after the information reached
officials, several ambulances from concerned hospitals moved out.
They reached the spot within some time, though it took time to take
the injured as some spots were overcrowded."
There were both private and public hospitals for the help and all of
them responded "marvellously", he added.
Chavan also disclosed that 12 teams have been formed to probe the
terror attack that killed 17 people and injured 131.
The chief minister said the possibility of the involvement of the
underworld and Left-wing extremists in the worst terror attack after
the November 2008 strike was also being looked at.
Asked about the possibility of a suicide bomber in one of the
bombings, Chavan replied: "I'll not dwell greatly into the
investigation but what is clear is that ammonium nitrate was used.
"It was electronically planted and if it is so then it has a circuit
which denies the possibility of a suicide bomber. It is not logical
to have electronic timer and a suicide bomber."
However, he added, that the male body on which an electric circuit
was found and another with severed head might have been too close to
the impact of the explosion.
He said that investigators have been directed to look at even the
most remote possibility.
"Several teams have been created including the (Anti-Terrorism Squad)
ATS, (National Investigation Agency) NIA, (National Security Guard)
NSG and also the crime branch which cracked the Dey murder case," the
chief minister said.
He said forensic investigators had collected all the required
samples, including blood samples and explosives substances.
He further added that the investigators were examining the voluminous
CCTV footages recorded but it wasn't of much help so far because "the
places were overcrowded and it was raining very hard (when the bombs
exploded)".
Without naming the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he said he was
"upset" over the government being criticised for its alleged laxity
in fighting the terror.
"I was very upset that one of the political parties tried to
politicise the issue. They have a right to criticise but there is a
time and a place."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Worried-over-collapse-of-mobile-network-after-blasts-Maharashtra-mulls-satellite-phones/articleshow/9234959.cms
Forwarded message from S. K.
Friday, July 15, 2011
perhaps this is the biggest joke of the year that a chife minister of
a state has been unable to contact any of his minister colleagues,
police officials(dgp..) or even a police station for 15 minutes after
thye bomb blast!! he claims the reason was line congestion!!
and this happens with our most modern telecom system in the world
with early wireless system and police runners on motorcycles replaced
by the telecom and internet of spontaneous contcts to any part of the
world.
can you trust a cm claiming his inability to contact any of his
officers for 15 min.? what about 2g and 3g- or these also were
affected by congestion for 15 min. whereas many in neighbouring
states coul get the lines immediately after the bomb blasts.
perhaps the telecom engineers should be asked how this has happened
in the financial/business capital of india. or the cm is lying
outright, wanting to remain unreachable like rr patil to avoid
embarassement?
End of forwarded message from S. K.
Forwarded message from V. S.

Friday, July 15, 2011

When the people are ready to believe and be fooled why should he not
give such lame excuses? Thank God there was no personal attack on
him.

End of forwarded message from V. S.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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I could not contact police chief for 15 minutes: Maharashtra CM
IANS
The Times of India
July 15, 2011, 3.45 pm IST
Mumbai - Maharashtra chief minister Prithviraj Chavan said on Friday
that he could not reach top police officers for about 15 minutes
after Wednesday's triple bombings due to a "shocking and
unacceptable" communication breakdown.
In interviews to national TV networks, Chavan said mobile
communication had completely collapsed within minutes of the terror
strikes on Wednesday evening.
"There was complete communication breakdown in first 15 minutes. It
was shocking and unacceptable, it unnerved me. Mobile network was
jammed," said Chavan in a TV interview.
In another interview, the chief minister said: "I could not contact
chief of police, DGP for 15 minutes."
He said that it was a "very serious" issue and the lacunae needed to
be plugged.
The government, he said, was thinking of getting satellite phones or
dedicated mobile network for such emergency situations.
"We need dedicated apparatus for emergency communication, better
ambulances, better road maps and people too should be educated on
what to do in an emergency situation," he said.
Chavan also spoke about the need to have state-of-the-art equipment
to deal with such situations.
"Procurement of equipment is a problem. I have raised this issue with
the PM ( Manmohan Singh) and home minister (P. Chidambaram). But
technology keeps on changing, you buy something and then it gets
dated. Almost 5,000 CCTVS were meant to be bought for Mumbai, which
did not happen. I will see to it that this will happen and it is
expedited," he said.
He, however, denied that the emergency medical responses in India
were lagging. "Just a few minutes after the information reached
officials, several ambulances from concerned hospitals moved out.
They reached the spot within some time, though it took time to take
the injured as some spots were overcrowded."
There were both private and public hospitals for the help and all of
them responded "marvellously", he added.
Chavan also disclosed that 12 teams have been formed to probe the
terror attack that killed 17 people and injured 131.
The chief minister said the possibility of the involvement of the
underworld and Left-wing extremists in the worst terror attack after
the November 2008 strike was also being looked at.
Asked about the possibility of a suicide bomber in one of the
bombings, Chavan replied: "I'll not dwell greatly into the
investigation but what is clear is that ammonium nitrate was used.
"It was electronically planted and if it is so then it has a circuit
which denies the possibility of a suicide bomber. It is not logical
to have electronic timer and a suicide bomber."
However, he added, that the male body on which an electric circuit
was found and another with severed head might have been too close to
the impact of the explosion.
He said that investigators have been directed to look at even the
most remote possibility.
"Several teams have been created including the (Anti-Terrorism Squad)
ATS, (National Investigation Agency) NIA, (National Security Guard)
NSG and also the crime branch which cracked the Dey murder case," the
chief minister said.
He said forensic investigators had collected all the required
samples, including blood samples and explosives substances.
He further added that the investigators were examining the voluminous
CCTV footages recorded but it wasn't of much help so far because "the
places were overcrowded and it was raining very hard (when the bombs
exploded)".
Without naming the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he said he was
"upset" over the government being criticised for its alleged laxity
in fighting the terror.
"I was very upset that one of the political parties tried to
politicise the issue. They have a right to criticise but there is a
time and a place."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Worried-over-collapse-of-mobile-network-after-blasts-Maharashtra-mulls-satellite-phones/articleshow/9234959.cms
Forwarded message from S. K.
Friday, July 15, 2011
perhaps this is the biggest joke of the year that a chife minister of
a state has been unable to contact any of his minister colleagues,
police officials(dgp..) or even a police station for 15 minutes after
thye bomb blast!! he claims the reason was line congestion!!
and this happens with our most modern telecom system in the world
with early wireless system and police runners on motorcycles replaced
by the telecom and internet of spontaneous contcts to any part of the
world.
can you trust a cm claiming his inability to contact any of his
officers for 15 min.? what about 2g and 3g- or these also were
affected by congestion for 15 min. whereas many in neighbouring
states coul get the lines immediately after the bomb blasts.
perhaps the telecom engineers should be asked how this has happened
in the financial/business capital of india. or the cm is lying
outright, wanting to remain unreachable like rr patil to avoid
embarassement?
End of forwarded message from S. K.
Forwarded message from V. S.
Friday, July 15, 2011
When the people are ready to believe and be fooled why should he not
give such lame excuses? Thank God there was no personal attack on
him.
End of forwarded message from V. S.
Forwarded message from R. M.

Friday, July 15, 2011

It's not a lame excuse. Its serious. The mobile networks are so
loaded after such a tragedy, that the CM could not reach his police
chief. The need of the hour is to build a specialized security forces
only network to be used in emergencies like these, so they are not
dependent on regular mobile networks.

I don't blame the CM on this point, it happens.I am glad the CM
recognizes the need, the question is will he raise to the occassion
to make reforms or just go along with his party instructions to go
slow on anti-terror reforms!

End of forwarded message from R. M.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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I could not contact police chief for 15 minutes: Maharashtra CM
IANS
The Times of India
July 15, 2011, 3.45 pm IST
Mumbai - Maharashtra chief minister Prithviraj Chavan said on Friday
that he could not reach top police officers for about 15 minutes
after Wednesday's triple bombings due to a "shocking and
unacceptable" communication breakdown.
In interviews to national TV networks, Chavan said mobile
communication had completely collapsed within minutes of the terror
strikes on Wednesday evening.
"There was complete communication breakdown in first 15 minutes. It
was shocking and unacceptable, it unnerved me. Mobile network was
jammed," said Chavan in a TV interview.
In another interview, the chief minister said: "I could not contact
chief of police, DGP for 15 minutes."
He said that it was a "very serious" issue and the lacunae needed to
be plugged.
The government, he said, was thinking of getting satellite phones or
dedicated mobile network for such emergency situations.
"We need dedicated apparatus for emergency communication, better
ambulances, better road maps and people too should be educated on
what to do in an emergency situation," he said.
Chavan also spoke about the need to have state-of-the-art equipment
to deal with such situations.
"Procurement of equipment is a problem. I have raised this issue with
the PM ( Manmohan Singh) and home minister (P. Chidambaram). But
technology keeps on changing, you buy something and then it gets
dated. Almost 5,000 CCTVS were meant to be bought for Mumbai, which
did not happen. I will see to it that this will happen and it is
expedited," he said.
He, however, denied that the emergency medical responses in India
were lagging. "Just a few minutes after the information reached
officials, several ambulances from concerned hospitals moved out.
They reached the spot within some time, though it took time to take
the injured as some spots were overcrowded."
There were both private and public hospitals for the help and all of
them responded "marvellously", he added.
Chavan also disclosed that 12 teams have been formed to probe the
terror attack that killed 17 people and injured 131.
The chief minister said the possibility of the involvement of the
underworld and Left-wing extremists in the worst terror attack after
the November 2008 strike was also being looked at.
Asked about the possibility of a suicide bomber in one of the
bombings, Chavan replied: "I'll not dwell greatly into the
investigation but what is clear is that ammonium nitrate was used.
"It was electronically planted and if it is so then it has a circuit
which denies the possibility of a suicide bomber. It is not logical
to have electronic timer and a suicide bomber."
However, he added, that the male body on which an electric circuit
was found and another with severed head might have been too close to
the impact of the explosion.
He said that investigators have been directed to look at even the
most remote possibility.
"Several teams have been created including the (Anti-Terrorism Squad)
ATS, (National Investigation Agency) NIA, (National Security Guard)
NSG and also the crime branch which cracked the Dey murder case," the
chief minister said.
He said forensic investigators had collected all the required
samples, including blood samples and explosives substances.
He further added that the investigators were examining the voluminous
CCTV footages recorded but it wasn't of much help so far because "the
places were overcrowded and it was raining very hard (when the bombs
exploded)".
Without naming the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he said he was
"upset" over the government being criticised for its alleged laxity
in fighting the terror.
"I was very upset that one of the political parties tried to
politicise the issue. They have a right to criticise but there is a
time and a place."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Worried-over-collapse-of-mobile-network-after-blasts-Maharashtra-mulls-satellite-phones/articleshow/9234959.cms
Forwarded message from S. K.
Friday, July 15, 2011
perhaps this is the biggest joke of the year that a chife minister of
a state has been unable to contact any of his minister colleagues,
police officials(dgp..) or even a police station for 15 minutes after
thye bomb blast!! he claims the reason was line congestion!!
and this happens with our most modern telecom system in the world
with early wireless system and police runners on motorcycles replaced
by the telecom and internet of spontaneous contcts to any part of the
world.
can you trust a cm claiming his inability to contact any of his
officers for 15 min.? what about 2g and 3g- or these also were
affected by congestion for 15 min. whereas many in neighbouring
states coul get the lines immediately after the bomb blasts.
perhaps the telecom engineers should be asked how this has happened
in the financial/business capital of india. or the cm is lying
outright, wanting to remain unreachable like rr patil to avoid
embarassement?
End of forwarded message from S. K.
Forwarded message from V. S.
Friday, July 15, 2011
When the people are ready to believe and be fooled why should he not
give such lame excuses? Thank God there was no personal attack on
him.
End of forwarded message from V. S.
Forwarded message from R. M.
Friday, July 15, 2011
It's not a lame excuse. Its serious. The mobile networks are so
loaded after such a tragedy, that the CM could not reach his police
chief. The need of the hour is to build a specialized security forces
only network to be used in emergencies like these, so they are not
dependent on regular mobile networks.
I don't blame the CM on this point, it happens.I am glad the CM
recognizes the need, the question is will he raise to the occassion
to make reforms or just go along with his party instructions to go
slow on anti-terror reforms!
End of forwarded message from R. M.
Forwarded message from G. D.

Friday, July 15, 2011

It is also possible that the police chief might have ignored calls
from politicians as they were doing the real work and did not want be
bothered by A** Holes who would only complicate matters or worse yet,
they might instruct them to blame the incident on the Hindus or such.

End of forwarded message from G. D.

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Om Shanti
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I could not contact police chief for 15 minutes: Maharashtra CM
IANS
The Times of India
July 15, 2011, 3.45 pm IST
Mumbai - Maharashtra chief minister Prithviraj Chavan said on Friday
that he could not reach top police officers for about 15 minutes
after Wednesday's triple bombings due to a "shocking and
unacceptable" communication breakdown.
In interviews to national TV networks, Chavan said mobile
communication had completely collapsed within minutes of the terror
strikes on Wednesday evening.
"There was complete communication breakdown in first 15 minutes. It
was shocking and unacceptable, it unnerved me. Mobile network was
jammed," said Chavan in a TV interview.
In another interview, the chief minister said: "I could not contact
chief of police, DGP for 15 minutes."
He said that it was a "very serious" issue and the lacunae needed to
be plugged.
The government, he said, was thinking of getting satellite phones or
dedicated mobile network for such emergency situations.
"We need dedicated apparatus for emergency communication, better
ambulances, better road maps and people too should be educated on
what to do in an emergency situation," he said.
Chavan also spoke about the need to have state-of-the-art equipment
to deal with such situations.
"Procurement of equipment is a problem. I have raised this issue with
the PM ( Manmohan Singh) and home minister (P. Chidambaram). But
technology keeps on changing, you buy something and then it gets
dated. Almost 5,000 CCTVS were meant to be bought for Mumbai, which
did not happen. I will see to it that this will happen and it is
expedited," he said.
He, however, denied that the emergency medical responses in India
were lagging. "Just a few minutes after the information reached
officials, several ambulances from concerned hospitals moved out.
They reached the spot within some time, though it took time to take
the injured as some spots were overcrowded."
There were both private and public hospitals for the help and all of
them responded "marvellously", he added.
Chavan also disclosed that 12 teams have been formed to probe the
terror attack that killed 17 people and injured 131.
The chief minister said the possibility of the involvement of the
underworld and Left-wing extremists in the worst terror attack after
the November 2008 strike was also being looked at.
Asked about the possibility of a suicide bomber in one of the
bombings, Chavan replied: "I'll not dwell greatly into the
investigation but what is clear is that ammonium nitrate was used.
"It was electronically planted and if it is so then it has a circuit
which denies the possibility of a suicide bomber. It is not logical
to have electronic timer and a suicide bomber."
However, he added, that the male body on which an electric circuit
was found and another with severed head might have been too close to
the impact of the explosion.
He said that investigators have been directed to look at even the
most remote possibility.
"Several teams have been created including the (Anti-Terrorism Squad)
ATS, (National Investigation Agency) NIA, (National Security Guard)
NSG and also the crime branch which cracked the Dey murder case," the
chief minister said.
He said forensic investigators had collected all the required
samples, including blood samples and explosives substances.
He further added that the investigators were examining the voluminous
CCTV footages recorded but it wasn't of much help so far because "the
places were overcrowded and it was raining very hard (when the bombs
exploded)".
Without naming the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he said he was
"upset" over the government being criticised for its alleged laxity
in fighting the terror.
"I was very upset that one of the political parties tried to
politicise the issue. They have a right to criticise but there is a
time and a place."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Worried-over-collapse-of-mobile-network-after-blasts-Maharashtra-mulls-satellite-phones/articleshow/9234959.cms
Forwarded message from S. K.
Friday, July 15, 2011
perhaps this is the biggest joke of the year that a chife minister of
a state has been unable to contact any of his minister colleagues,
police officials(dgp..) or even a police station for 15 minutes after
thye bomb blast!! he claims the reason was line congestion!!
and this happens with our most modern telecom system in the world
with early wireless system and police runners on motorcycles replaced
by the telecom and internet of spontaneous contcts to any part of the
world.
can you trust a cm claiming his inability to contact any of his
officers for 15 min.? what about 2g and 3g- or these also were
affected by congestion for 15 min. whereas many in neighbouring
states coul get the lines immediately after the bomb blasts.
perhaps the telecom engineers should be asked how this has happened
in the financial/business capital of india. or the cm is lying
outright, wanting to remain unreachable like rr patil to avoid
embarassement?
End of forwarded message from S. K.
Forwarded message from V. S.
Friday, July 15, 2011
When the people are ready to believe and be fooled why should he not
give such lame excuses? Thank God there was no personal attack on
him.
End of forwarded message from V. S.
Forwarded message from R. M.
Friday, July 15, 2011
It's not a lame excuse. Its serious. The mobile networks are so
loaded after such a tragedy, that the CM could not reach his police
chief. The need of the hour is to build a specialized security forces
only network to be used in emergencies like these, so they are not
dependent on regular mobile networks.
I don't blame the CM on this point, it happens.I am glad the CM
recognizes the need, the question is will he raise to the occassion
to make reforms or just go along with his party instructions to go
slow on anti-terror reforms!
End of forwarded message from R. M.
Forwarded message from G. D.

Friday, July 15, 2011

It is also possible that the police chief might have ignored calls
from politicians as they were doing the real work and did not want be
bothered by A** Holes who would only complicate matters or worse yet,
they might instruct them to blame the incident on the Hindus or such.

End of forwarded message from G. D.

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Om Shanti

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I could not contact police chief for 15 minutes: Maharashtra CM
IANS
The Times of India
July 15, 2011, 3.45 pm IST
Mumbai - Maharashtra chief minister Prithviraj Chavan said on Friday
that he could not reach top police officers for about 15 minutes
after Wednesday's triple bombings due to a "shocking and
unacceptable" communication breakdown.
In interviews to national TV networks, Chavan said mobile
communication had completely collapsed within minutes of the terror
strikes on Wednesday evening.
"There was complete communication breakdown in first 15 minutes. It
was shocking and unacceptable, it unnerved me. Mobile network was
jammed," said Chavan in a TV interview.
In another interview, the chief minister said: "I could not contact
chief of police, DGP for 15 minutes."
He said that it was a "very serious" issue and the lacunae needed to
be plugged.
The government, he said, was thinking of getting satellite phones or
dedicated mobile network for such emergency situations.
"We need dedicated apparatus for emergency communication, better
ambulances, better road maps and people too should be educated on
what to do in an emergency situation," he said.
Chavan also spoke about the need to have state-of-the-art equipment
to deal with such situations.
"Procurement of equipment is a problem. I have raised this issue with
the PM ( Manmohan Singh) and home minister (P. Chidambaram). But
technology keeps on changing, you buy something and then it gets
dated. Almost 5,000 CCTVS were meant to be bought for Mumbai, which
did not happen. I will see to it that this will happen and it is
expedited," he said.
He, however, denied that the emergency medical responses in India
were lagging. "Just a few minutes after the information reached
officials, several ambulances from concerned hospitals moved out.
They reached the spot within some time, though it took time to take
the injured as some spots were overcrowded."
There were both private and public hospitals for the help and all of
them responded "marvellously", he added.
Chavan also disclosed that 12 teams have been formed to probe the
terror attack that killed 17 people and injured 131.
The chief minister said the possibility of the involvement of the
underworld and Left-wing extremists in the worst terror attack after
the November 2008 strike was also being looked at.
Asked about the possibility of a suicide bomber in one of the
bombings, Chavan replied: "I'll not dwell greatly into the
investigation but what is clear is that ammonium nitrate was used.
"It was electronically planted and if it is so then it has a circuit
which denies the possibility of a suicide bomber. It is not logical
to have electronic timer and a suicide bomber."
However, he added, that the male body on which an electric circuit
was found and another with severed head might have been too close to
the impact of the explosion.
He said that investigators have been directed to look at even the
most remote possibility.
"Several teams have been created including the (Anti-Terrorism Squad)
ATS, (National Investigation Agency) NIA, (National Security Guard)
NSG and also the crime branch which cracked the Dey murder case," the
chief minister said.
He said forensic investigators had collected all the required
samples, including blood samples and explosives substances.
He further added that the investigators were examining the voluminous
CCTV footages recorded but it wasn't of much help so far because "the
places were overcrowded and it was raining very hard (when the bombs
exploded)".
Without naming the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he said he was
"upset" over the government being criticised for its alleged laxity
in fighting the terror.
"I was very upset that one of the political parties tried to
politicise the issue. They have a right to criticise but there is a
time and a place."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Worried-over-collapse-of-mobile-network-after-blasts-Maharashtra-mulls-satellite-phones/articleshow/9234959.cms
Forwarded message from S. K.
Friday, July 15, 2011
perhaps this is the biggest joke of the year that a chife minister of
a state has been unable to contact any of his minister colleagues,
police officials(dgp..) or even a police station for 15 minutes after
thye bomb blast!! he claims the reason was line congestion!!
and this happens with our most modern telecom system in the world
with early wireless system and police runners on motorcycles replaced
by the telecom and internet of spontaneous contcts to any part of the
world.
can you trust a cm claiming his inability to contact any of his
officers for 15 min.? what about 2g and 3g- or these also were
affected by congestion for 15 min. whereas many in neighbouring
states coul get the lines immediately after the bomb blasts.
perhaps the telecom engineers should be asked how this has happened
in the financial/business capital of india. or the cm is lying
outright, wanting to remain unreachable like rr patil to avoid
embarassement?
End of forwarded message from S. K.
Forwarded message from V. S.
Friday, July 15, 2011
When the people are ready to believe and be fooled why should he not
give such lame excuses? Thank God there was no personal attack on
him.
End of forwarded message from V. S.
Forwarded message from R. M.
Friday, July 15, 2011
It's not a lame excuse. Its serious. The mobile networks are so
loaded after such a tragedy, that the CM could not reach his police
chief. The need of the hour is to build a specialized security forces
only network to be used in emergencies like these, so they are not
dependent on regular mobile networks.
I don't blame the CM on this point, it happens.I am glad the CM
recognizes the need, the question is will he raise to the occassion
to make reforms or just go along with his party instructions to go
slow on anti-terror reforms!
End of forwarded message from R. M.
Forwarded message from G. D.
Friday, July 15, 2011
It is also possible that the police chief might have ignored calls
from politicians as they were doing the real work and did not want be
bothered by A** Holes who would only complicate matters or worse yet,
they might instruct them to blame the incident on the Hindus or such.
End of forwarded message from G. D.
Couldn't get cops for 15 min after blast - CM

IANS
The Pioneer
Friday, July 15, 2011

Mumbai - Maharashtra Chief Minister Prithviraj Chavan said Friday
that he could not reach top police officers for almost 15 minutes
after the triple bombings.

Mobile communication collapsed within minutes of the terror strikes
Wednesday evening, the chief minister said.

"I could not contact chief of police, DGP for 15 minutes. That is
very serious," Chavan told NDTV in an interview.

He said lacunae needed to be plugged and the government was thinking
of having satellite phones or dedicated mobile network.

Chavan also disclosed that 12 task groups have been formed to probe
the terror attack that killed 17 people and injured 131.

The chief minister said the possibility of the involvement of the
underworld and Left-wing extremists was also being looked at.

Hinting at the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he said: "I was very
upset that one of the political parties tried to politicise the
issue. They have a right to criticse but there is a time and a
place."

http://dailypioneer.com/353336/Couldnt-get-cops-for-15min-after-blast-CM.html

More at:
http://www.dailypioneer.com

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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I could not contact police chief for 15 minutes: Maharashtra CM
IANS
The Times of India
July 15, 2011, 3.45 pm IST
Mumbai - Maharashtra chief minister Prithviraj Chavan said on Friday
that he could not reach top police officers for about 15 minutes
after Wednesday's triple bombings due to a "shocking and
unacceptable" communication breakdown.
In interviews to national TV networks, Chavan said mobile
communication had completely collapsed within minutes of the terror
strikes on Wednesday evening.
"There was complete communication breakdown in first 15 minutes. It
was shocking and unacceptable, it unnerved me. Mobile network was
jammed," said Chavan in a TV interview.
In another interview, the chief minister said: "I could not contact
chief of police, DGP for 15 minutes."
He said that it was a "very serious" issue and the lacunae needed to
be plugged.
The government, he said, was thinking of getting satellite phones or
dedicated mobile network for such emergency situations.
"We need dedicated apparatus for emergency communication, better
ambulances, better road maps and people too should be educated on
what to do in an emergency situation," he said.
Chavan also spoke about the need to have state-of-the-art equipment
to deal with such situations.
"Procurement of equipment is a problem. I have raised this issue with
the PM ( Manmohan Singh) and home minister (P. Chidambaram). But
technology keeps on changing, you buy something and then it gets
dated. Almost 5,000 CCTVS were meant to be bought for Mumbai, which
did not happen. I will see to it that this will happen and it is
expedited," he said.
He, however, denied that the emergency medical responses in India
were lagging. "Just a few minutes after the information reached
officials, several ambulances from concerned hospitals moved out.
They reached the spot within some time, though it took time to take
the injured as some spots were overcrowded."
There were both private and public hospitals for the help and all of
them responded "marvellously", he added.
Chavan also disclosed that 12 teams have been formed to probe the
terror attack that killed 17 people and injured 131.
The chief minister said the possibility of the involvement of the
underworld and Left-wing extremists in the worst terror attack after
the November 2008 strike was also being looked at.
Asked about the possibility of a suicide bomber in one of the
bombings, Chavan replied: "I'll not dwell greatly into the
investigation but what is clear is that ammonium nitrate was used.
"It was electronically planted and if it is so then it has a circuit
which denies the possibility of a suicide bomber. It is not logical
to have electronic timer and a suicide bomber."
However, he added, that the male body on which an electric circuit
was found and another with severed head might have been too close to
the impact of the explosion.
He said that investigators have been directed to look at even the
most remote possibility.
"Several teams have been created including the (Anti-Terrorism Squad)
ATS, (National Investigation Agency) NIA, (National Security Guard)
NSG and also the crime branch which cracked the Dey murder case," the
chief minister said.
He said forensic investigators had collected all the required
samples, including blood samples and explosives substances.
He further added that the investigators were examining the voluminous
CCTV footages recorded but it wasn't of much help so far because "the
places were overcrowded and it was raining very hard (when the bombs
exploded)".
Without naming the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he said he was
"upset" over the government being criticised for its alleged laxity
in fighting the terror.
"I was very upset that one of the political parties tried to
politicise the issue. They have a right to criticise but there is a
time and a place."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Worried-over-collapse-of-mobile-network-after-blasts-Maharashtra-mulls-satellite-phones/articleshow/9234959.cms
Forwarded message from S. K.
Friday, July 15, 2011
perhaps this is the biggest joke of the year that a chife minister of
a state has been unable to contact any of his minister colleagues,
police officials(dgp..) or even a police station for 15 minutes after
thye bomb blast!! he claims the reason was line congestion!!
and this happens with our most modern telecom system in the world
with early wireless system and police runners on motorcycles replaced
by the telecom and internet of spontaneous contcts to any part of the
world.
can you trust a cm claiming his inability to contact any of his
officers for 15 min.? what about 2g and 3g- or these also were
affected by congestion for 15 min. whereas many in neighbouring
states coul get the lines immediately after the bomb blasts.
perhaps the telecom engineers should be asked how this has happened
in the financial/business capital of india. or the cm is lying
outright, wanting to remain unreachable like rr patil to avoid
embarassement?
End of forwarded message from S. K.
Forwarded message from V. S.
Friday, July 15, 2011
When the people are ready to believe and be fooled why should he not
give such lame excuses? Thank God there was no personal attack on
him.
End of forwarded message from V. S.
Forwarded message from R. M.
Friday, July 15, 2011
It's not a lame excuse. Its serious. The mobile networks are so
loaded after such a tragedy, that the CM could not reach his police
chief. The need of the hour is to build a specialized security forces
only network to be used in emergencies like these, so they are not
dependent on regular mobile networks.
I don't blame the CM on this point, it happens.I am glad the CM
recognizes the need, the question is will he raise to the occassion
to make reforms or just go along with his party instructions to go
slow on anti-terror reforms!
End of forwarded message from R. M.
Forwarded message from G. D.
Friday, July 15, 2011
It is also possible that the police chief might have ignored calls
from politicians as they were doing the real work and did not want be
bothered by A** Holes who would only complicate matters or worse yet,
they might instruct them to blame the incident on the Hindus or such.
End of forwarded message from G. D.
Couldn't get cops for 15 min after blast - CM
IANS
The Pioneer
Friday, July 15, 2011
Mumbai - Maharashtra Chief Minister Prithviraj Chavan said Friday
that he could not reach top police officers for almost 15 minutes
after the triple bombings.
Mobile communication collapsed within minutes of the terror strikes
Wednesday evening, the chief minister said.
"I could not contact chief of police, DGP for 15 minutes. That is
very serious," Chavan told NDTV in an interview.
He said lacunae needed to be plugged and the government was thinking
of having satellite phones or dedicated mobile network.
Chavan also disclosed that 12 task groups have been formed to probe
the terror attack that killed 17 people and injured 131.
The chief minister said the possibility of the involvement of the
underworld and Left-wing extremists was also being looked at.
Hinting at the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he said: "I was very
upset that one of the political parties tried to politicise the
issue. They have a right to criticse but there is a time and a
place."
http://dailypioneer.com/353336/Couldnt-get-cops-for-15min-after-blast-CM.html
Forwarded message from M. J.

Saturday, July 16, 2011

Most US oil companies have executives equipped with satellite phones
for emergencies. The oil/gas production activities require satellite
phones for just in case situations (e.g. BP). It is only $500/month
in most US states. This CM probably spends more than that for his
bewda, ganja and red light district madams.

End of forwarded message from M. J.

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Om Shanti
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I could not contact police chief for 15 minutes: Maharashtra CM
IANS
The Times of India
July 15, 2011, 3.45 pm IST
Mumbai - Maharashtra chief minister Prithviraj Chavan said on Friday
that he could not reach top police officers for about 15 minutes
after Wednesday's triple bombings due to a "shocking and
unacceptable" communication breakdown.
In interviews to national TV networks, Chavan said mobile
communication had completely collapsed within minutes of the terror
strikes on Wednesday evening.
"There was complete communication breakdown in first 15 minutes. It
was shocking and unacceptable, it unnerved me. Mobile network was
jammed," said Chavan in a TV interview.
In another interview, the chief minister said: "I could not contact
chief of police, DGP for 15 minutes."
He said that it was a "very serious" issue and the lacunae needed to
be plugged.
The government, he said, was thinking of getting satellite phones or
dedicated mobile network for such emergency situations.
"We need dedicated apparatus for emergency communication, better
ambulances, better road maps and people too should be educated on
what to do in an emergency situation," he said.
Chavan also spoke about the need to have state-of-the-art equipment
to deal with such situations.
"Procurement of equipment is a problem. I have raised this issue with
the PM ( Manmohan Singh) and home minister (P. Chidambaram). But
technology keeps on changing, you buy something and then it gets
dated. Almost 5,000 CCTVS were meant to be bought for Mumbai, which
did not happen. I will see to it that this will happen and it is
expedited," he said.
He, however, denied that the emergency medical responses in India
were lagging. "Just a few minutes after the information reached
officials, several ambulances from concerned hospitals moved out.
They reached the spot within some time, though it took time to take
the injured as some spots were overcrowded."
There were both private and public hospitals for the help and all of
them responded "marvellously", he added.
Chavan also disclosed that 12 teams have been formed to probe the
terror attack that killed 17 people and injured 131.
The chief minister said the possibility of the involvement of the
underworld and Left-wing extremists in the worst terror attack after
the November 2008 strike was also being looked at.
Asked about the possibility of a suicide bomber in one of the
bombings, Chavan replied: "I'll not dwell greatly into the
investigation but what is clear is that ammonium nitrate was used.
"It was electronically planted and if it is so then it has a circuit
which denies the possibility of a suicide bomber. It is not logical
to have electronic timer and a suicide bomber."
However, he added, that the male body on which an electric circuit
was found and another with severed head might have been too close to
the impact of the explosion.
He said that investigators have been directed to look at even the
most remote possibility.
"Several teams have been created including the (Anti-Terrorism Squad)
ATS, (National Investigation Agency) NIA, (National Security Guard)
NSG and also the crime branch which cracked the Dey murder case," the
chief minister said.
He said forensic investigators had collected all the required
samples, including blood samples and explosives substances.
He further added that the investigators were examining the voluminous
CCTV footages recorded but it wasn't of much help so far because "the
places were overcrowded and it was raining very hard (when the bombs
exploded)".
Without naming the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he said he was
"upset" over the government being criticised for its alleged laxity
in fighting the terror.
"I was very upset that one of the political parties tried to
politicise the issue. They have a right to criticise but there is a
time and a place."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Worried-over-collapse-of-mobile-network-after-blasts-Maharashtra-mulls-satellite-phones/articleshow/9234959.cms
Forwarded message from S. K.
Friday, July 15, 2011
perhaps this is the biggest joke of the year that a chife minister of
a state has been unable to contact any of his minister colleagues,
police officials(dgp..) or even a police station for 15 minutes after
thye bomb blast!! he claims the reason was line congestion!!
and this happens with our most modern telecom system in the world
with early wireless system and police runners on motorcycles replaced
by the telecom and internet of spontaneous contcts to any part of the
world.
can you trust a cm claiming his inability to contact any of his
officers for 15 min.? what about 2g and 3g- or these also were
affected by congestion for 15 min. whereas many in neighbouring
states coul get the lines immediately after the bomb blasts.
perhaps the telecom engineers should be asked how this has happened
in the financial/business capital of india. or the cm is lying
outright, wanting to remain unreachable like rr patil to avoid
embarassement?
End of forwarded message from S. K.
Forwarded message from V. S.
Friday, July 15, 2011
When the people are ready to believe and be fooled why should he not
give such lame excuses? Thank God there was no personal attack on
him.
End of forwarded message from V. S.
Forwarded message from R. M.
Friday, July 15, 2011
It's not a lame excuse. Its serious. The mobile networks are so
loaded after such a tragedy, that the CM could not reach his police
chief. The need of the hour is to build a specialized security forces
only network to be used in emergencies like these, so they are not
dependent on regular mobile networks.
I don't blame the CM on this point, it happens.I am glad the CM
recognizes the need, the question is will he raise to the occassion
to make reforms or just go along with his party instructions to go
slow on anti-terror reforms!
End of forwarded message from R. M.
Forwarded message from G. D.
Friday, July 15, 2011
It is also possible that the police chief might have ignored calls
from politicians as they were doing the real work and did not want be
bothered by A** Holes who would only complicate matters or worse yet,
they might instruct them to blame the incident on the Hindus or such.
End of forwarded message from G. D.
Couldn't get cops for 15 min after blast - CM
IANS
The Pioneer
Friday, July 15, 2011
Mumbai - Maharashtra Chief Minister Prithviraj Chavan said Friday
that he could not reach top police officers for almost 15 minutes
after the triple bombings.
Mobile communication collapsed within minutes of the terror strikes
Wednesday evening, the chief minister said.
"I could not contact chief of police, DGP for 15 minutes. That is
very serious," Chavan told NDTV in an interview.
He said lacunae needed to be plugged and the government was thinking
of having satellite phones or dedicated mobile network.
Chavan also disclosed that 12 task groups have been formed to probe
the terror attack that killed 17 people and injured 131.
The chief minister said the possibility of the involvement of the
underworld and Left-wing extremists was also being looked at.
Hinting at the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), he said: "I was very
upset that one of the political parties tried to politicise the
issue. They have a right to criticse but there is a time and a
place."
http://dailypioneer.com/353336/Couldnt-get-cops-for-15min-after-blast-CM.html
Forwarded message from M. J.
Saturday, July 16, 2011
Most US oil companies have executives equipped with satellite phones
for emergencies. The oil/gas production activities require satellite
phones for just in case situations (e.g. BP). It is only $500/month
in most US states. This CM probably spends more than that for his
bewda, ganja and red light district madams.
End of forwarded message from M. J.
Forwarded message from S. K.

1. Indeed the matter is serious, not to be taken as a lame excuse,
which unfortunately is true due to laxity and indiscipline in the
Police hierarchy and irresponsibility increasing due to their
prostitution by the Politicans using Police for all illegal actions.

2. Leave alone Satellite phone, there are several means of
communication under present Indian conditions- so much advanced and
equal to the best in the World. A CM cannot contact his Police Chief
or other POlice officers for 15 min.? Incorrigible!!

A CM is supposed to be accessible all the 24 hours by communication,
both from him and to be received by him, in view of the Country's
security!! In case of an attack from sea e.g., can a CM of Mumbai get
himself excused that his phone lines are dead and he could not
contact the defence HQ in Mumbai, either Kalina or Naval HQ at Hamla
or Colaba?

3. Under existing conditions, the vintage WWII wireless tap
(telegraph) system still works in all States under Police wireless
communication and the message could be carried in minutes to and fro.
He could have contacted Police emergency no-s or asked the local
Telephone exchange to manually connect to the DGP or others? Don't we
know that when Sun-spot activities the electronic? Satellite
communications fail, we revert to the vintage system? He could have
very well sent the message summoning DGP immediaytely?

Where there is a will, there is a way!! It is sheer non-sense for a
head of a State transferring the onus to the telecom system for his
inability to contact any Police or other officials for 15 min. unless
by lethargy, usual with such Politicians, things are taken lightly -
chalta hai attitude- and he would have been trying from his own
mobile casually without knowing the seriousness of the situation.

What was the Home Minister RR Patil doing in these 15 minutes? It was
reported he was not available the whole day, perhaps avoiding to meet
the media in a situation similar to 26/11 when he was harassed by the
media and had to resign. And Chaggan Bhujpal? Perhaps having a drink
with the underworld chums!!

End of forwarded message from S. K.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

P. Rajah
2011-07-15 22:27:16 UTC
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Sex hell of Dalit women exposed

Luke Harding in New Delhi

A new report on the plight of lower caste women in rural India reveals a
depressing portrait of rape, sexual abuse and harassment, and suggests
that it is virtually impossible for victims even to file a complaint at
a police station, let alone achieve justice.

An "extremely high" number of sexual assaults takes place on women from
desperately poor Dalit or tribal communities - often by landlords, upper
caste villagers and police officers, the study, published yesterday,
found. But fewer than 5% of cases make it to court, activists estimate.

When the perpetrators are upper caste or come from influential local
families, policemen invariably refuse to take a statement from victims -
and have even been known to assault the women. They also routinely
demand bribes, intimidate witnesses, cover up evidence and beat up the
women's husbands.

The police also do little or nothing to prevent attacks on rape victims
by gangs of upper-caste villagers seeking to prevent a case from being
pursued. Sometimes the policemen even join in, the study suggests. Rape
victims have also been murdered. Such crimes usually go unpunished.

The study by Amnesty International was conducted late last year in Uttar
Pradesh and Rajasthan, two of the most backward and feudal states. But
its findings can be applied across most of India.

Researchers found that women from so-called untouchable castes were
prevented from using the same well as upper-caste villagers, or
attending the same temple. Women who ignored these restrictions were
often raped as punishment.

"Dalit people have been repressed for years. Even when Dalit women were
raped, nobody would say anything about it," Bhanvari Devi, a Dalit from
Rajasthan, said. "If a Dalit is riding a cycle or wearing shoes in front
of an upper caste person, then they are harassed by members of the upper
caste."

Ms Devi said that when she drew water from the upper-caste well in her
village, thugs beat her 11-year-old daughter unconscious. She went to
the police station to complain but was thrown out and called a "whore".
A gang of upper-caste locals then sexually assaulted her at her hut that
night,

The study also found that lawyers for victims of sexual assault in few
cases to reach the courts would often accept money from the accused and
advise their client to drop the case. Police officers routinely
dismissed at least 30% of rape complaints as false.

"There is an enormous difference in India between the rhetoric from
central government officials and the reality on the ground," Emma
Blower, a spokeswoman for Amnesty International, said last night. "There
is a hideous amount of violence against women in rural areas."
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Astrology: Fraud or Superstition?
http://www.seesharppress.com/astro.html

Ass-troll-ogers/jyotishitheads are the bane of humanity, and must be
cleansed or otherwise purified for the benefit of society.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/vhp-terrorism
P. Rajah
2011-07-15 22:23:17 UTC
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Sex scandal in temple rocks city [Nagpur]
by Bose, Soumittra S

NAGPUR:Swami Nityananda's sex scandal may have rocked the country. Now
Nagpur will wake up on Saturday to sleaze at a religious place in the
city. A temple at Quetta colony is the latest spot of a sex scandal
which came to light after Lakadganj police arrested the trusted cook of
the religious place.

The devastated expression of Nayan (name changed) says it all even after
a fortnight after the incident. He was humiliated at a place where he
least expected anything to happen to him. Pramod Dinkodwar, alias
Bhuriya, was put behind bars after he allegedly forced the 20-year-old
Nayan to have unnatural sex in the temple. The temple management, which
has turned a blind eye to the charges, has retained him.

Bhuriya, who was named by the victim at the police station, has been
working in the temple since childhood. Temple management authorities
insist that the allegations leveled by Nayan are baseless. Nayan, who
was abandoned by his parents when he was two, has been complaining of
unbearable stomach pain ever since he was victimised. He was found
sitting in front of the temple, adjoining his Gondpura residence in
Shantinagar, in a state of shock. Nayan, a member of the Gond tribal
community, had gone to the temple to partake the free food that's
distributed there. He was waiting in the queue.

Dinkodwar allegedly urged Nayan to come along with him to sweep and
clean the floor. Once upstairs, he took Nayan to a room and engaged in
unnatural sex. A brutalized Nayan, who was left injured, approached an
old man and narrated his plight. The old man, who had spotted Nayan and
Pramod Dinkodwar coming down the stairs, also helped the victim by
supporting his version before the police.
--
Astrology: Fraud or Superstition?
http://www.seesharppress.com/astro.html

Ass-troll-ogers/jyotishitheads are the bane of humanity, and must be
cleansed or otherwise purified for the benefit of society.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/vhp-terrorism
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